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Old 10-21-2012, 09:46 PM
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Obedience class versus home training

Hello everyone,

I was hoping for some insight from some of the more experienced dog owners here. I am looking at taking Jake to obedience class but have some reservations about it.

I have never trained a dog before, but I have been watching a lot of youtube videos and I am willing to do my homework. Would training on my own at home be successful?

I just worry because Jake is sooo active and hyper around other dogs I feel like a group setting would be overwhelming and pointless for him. (note, private training sessions in my area are WAY out of my budget, already looked into that.)

On the other hand, I don't know if self-taught training is a wise idea either. Can I learn enough on my own to be successful?

Thanks for your thoughts!
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For basic obedience, I definitely think you can do it on your own. If he is reactive (excited to the point of frustration/can't pay attention) group classes probably aren't the answer. FWIW, I took a reactive dog to group classes at one point, and it was a horrible experience. It really depends how excited he gets. Will he pay attention with REALLY tasty treats (chicken, steak, etc.)? You may also be able to try it out and get your money back if it doesn't work out on the first class; it depends where you are going for classes.

ETA: tab289 and kikopup on YouTube have really great videos.
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He will pay attention to me for ANY treat, even just his kibble! I have looked at a lot of the sticky's and threads here in the training section, but would you (or anyone else for that matter) have any recommendations of an outlined guide on how to train him start to finish? I am a very type A person and would love to have a detailed plan for how to begin this process.
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just saw your reply! I have been watching kikopup a lot today to get a feel for it
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Unless my dog had an issue (aggression, serious shyness ect) I train at home. I believe training a dog in a familiar (i.e. boring) environment with low stimuli/stimuli that the dog is used to produces more sound results. Your dog is focused on you (hopefully) and not the new surroundings, people and dogs that come with a class. IME.

I've trained all my dogs (and I am the farthest thing from a novice dog owner) on my own, using Positive Reinforcement. My best female Mastiff (I bred them for 7 years) did very well in Rally-O.
My Dachshund Nola is trained at home and is incredibly smart with a large vocabulary of commands/tricks/words.

Ditto the suggestion of Kikopup and Tab289! I love both of them; Tab's methods work better for Nola. Lots of very informative videos
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LOL. I actually wrote out something like this for my dog, but it really depends on what you want your dog to do and also if he has any behavioral problems. If it helps you, here is my outline for Coconut (minus a few bigger things that are in another document). I like kikopup's advice of writing out everything you want your dog to do and everything you don't want your dog to do. There's pretty much a video or article online somewhere for everything you could train your dog to do.

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Basic obediance isn't hard to do at home, but working with a trainer in a group setting might give you some insight as to how to work with that problem. Approach the trainer ahead of time and explain your concerns. You're hardly the first dog owner with that problem
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I took Zoe to class right after I got her and they immediately traumatized her. It took MONTHS to get her over being afraid of a clicker. She is noise sensitive which I explained to the instructor prior to signing up for the class. The instructor reassured me that she prefers marker words and that there wouldn't be any clickers used in class. We showed up to class and the instructor handed out clickers to everyone and they all started clicking away.. the noise echoed in the building and Zoe was on the ground shaking under the chair. I was so pissed.. we ended up going to one more class and it was the same thing. Shutdown and under the chair. Not only that I just felt like the trainer was being rude to me and not very helpful and we dropped out. She kept saying how Zoe would "get over it" and "Oh is she having another sensitive moment?" Ugh..

I train in my living room, around town and at the dog park. We did eventually get Zoe used to the clicker and she knows lots of advanced behaviors. My husband was against the class in the first place. He told me that I am already experienced enough to train her without it, but I went because I thought it would be good for her... as usual I'm wrong he's right... There's a song about it. LOL
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I think it depends on the dog and the owner. I've trained all my past dogs as well as helped with the family dogs growing up to learn basic obedience. My rescue that is 2 1/2 years old now was found when she was approx 5 1/2 weeks old. Despite all my early socialization and training she still had alot of issues that were beyond my control so I sought out a trainer/behaviorist to assist and it was well worth all the time and expense. I still have her do a few private sessions as needed.
I looked into the big box training programs and wasn't impressed. Do your research, you know your ability and dog best at this point.
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I've been training my dog (adult rescue) for 9 months on my own and just decided to join a class because there are a couple things I feel like I can't get past on my own. Plus, I like the moral support of real live people (Bree's reactive - about 50% down from when I got her, but still far from where I want her to be), although this forum has been tremendously helpful. I'd say do what you can on your own, maybe attend a live seminar on dog training if there are some interesting ones in your area and then go to class if you think it'll be useful if you get stuck or want to a controlled way to socialize your dog.
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