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Old 09-07-2011, 12:46 PM
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Getting your dog to bring the ball back!

I'm halfway there. Ill throw the ball and hell chase it no problem, but when he gets there he either; picks it up then drops it immediately, or gives it a quick nudge and carries on with his business.
I've tried running away and getting his attention when he picks it up, but he just drops it THEN chases me. What shall I do?
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Shape it?
Build up the small behaviors towards the bigger behavior.
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Um, elaboration?
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Here is a little video about shaping:

Basically what is the point in throwing the ball 10 feet away if they dog doesn't know how to interact with it 1 foot away.

So you start by clicking and treating for a look at the ball. Then once he is doing that every time you raise your criteria to touching the ball so c+t for touching the ball.
nosing the ball.
biting the ball
picking up the ball.

And then you start back at the beginning by putting the ball say 5 feet away from you and click for looking, then touching, then nosing and finally picking up.
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Here is a little video about shaping: How to Teach Your Dog Practically Anything P3: Shaping - YouTube

Basically what is the point in throwing the ball 10 feet away if they dog doesn't know how to interact with it 1 foot away.

So you start by clicking and treating for a look at the ball. Then once he is doing that every time you raise your criteria to touching the ball so c+t for touching the ball.
nosing the ball.
biting the ball
picking up the ball.

And then you start back at the beginning by putting the ball say 5 feet away from you and click for looking, then touching, then nosing and finally picking up.

Brilliant.

Thanks great info.
I can see how this would get him interested in the ball, and this may be a stupid question, but how do i then get him to BRING me the ball?
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Do a forum search for "backchain retrieve" ive posted at length about this in the past
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Do a forum search for "backchain retrieve" ive posted at length about this in the past
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Will check it out.
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Lol I've actually given up teaching my golden how to fetch. He basically does everything and he comes back to me when I say "come". However, he'll just have his own fun with the ball when he gets to me. I've tried taking the ball and then give him some treats but it still doesn't work =/
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Meh... I love all the training suggestions. But I found the key to be FUN! I played keep away, I tried bouncing the ball and racing her for it... Shorter distances at first because it's easier to encourage them back. Combined with quitting before them. I feel if you want it to be a game and fun, make it the coolest thing since pre sliced bread...
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Made some progress. After poking the ball in his face, stopping him from having it and some other irritable things, he finally chased it and just naturally brought the ball back to me one day after i threw it.

I treated and clicked him like a nutter.

After that he tends to do it a lot. Sometimes he gets distracted en-route and drops it....but the game is now simple, bring the ball back, or you dont get a treat.
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