10-19-2009, 11:55 AM
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#2 | | Dog Forum Team Member
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After one request, the city divided Candlelight Park in West Eugene last year. However, said Foerstler, dog owners ignored the rules and often brought large dogs in the small breed area.
| I have seen bigger dogs on the small side...I dunno like twice a year...a stupid reason to do away with it IMO.
I'll take it a step further...as a person who tends to own "in betweeners" I think with the popularity of the giant breeds they should have their own section too....
Scooter was too big to be on the small side, but would get trampled on the large dog side.
Kiwi...at 45lbs is often the smallest dog on the big side.
This is why I go to the park less and less, leave earlier and no longer take Tippy or Critter. |
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10-19-2009, 11:59 AM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| BAH!! I totally have been thinking about this. However I think there could be an area where size didn't matter, just because some dogs do enjoy playing with bigger or smaller dogs.
There is a group starting, I sent my bf's mom info on, it's just small dog play group. I think that's a great idea.
She does bring her chi's to the dog park, and our dog park does have a significant small dog population; But she often has to pick them up-they do get trampled by the bigger dogs when they are tearing around.
Yesterday we were at the park, and Mikey was really playing with this pincher. Often other owners come up to let their dogs socialize in the fur pile. It ended up the biggest group of little dogs I've seen-beagles, boston terriers, pugs, puppies, mutts-it was adorable. |
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10-19-2009, 12:29 PM
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| How sad
Personally I do not think every park needs to have separate areas, but some should, that way people have the option of driving to one with or without. Personally I have had my share of issues with separation. It was difficult to take Harvick (70 lbs) and Wendy (4 lbs) to a dog park and say "see ya later I'll be over here you go over there" because they spend the whole time staring and whining at the other sibling in a different area. I also had a lady say loudly for me to hear but did not directly speak to me "that dog is too tiny to be in here!" at a park with no designation, and what do you know, she let her crazy boxer off the leash as he ran over and almost trampled Wendy, can't trample anything with someones body suddenly thrown in front of you! She then got upset about me using my body to block my dog... wow... take your dog to a big dog designated park if he/she cannot handle small dogs properly. And vice versa, Harvick saw a male chihuahua and perked up, ran over and sniffed the dog, here comes the owner "OMG OMG OMG GET HIM AWAY FROM MY DOG"... some people need the designated parks some dont.
Another issue I see is having one dog leashed and walking inside the gated area...this is calling for disaster.
Also, for some reason, when a small dog or anything small is in someones arms it seems to draw more attention to that object, at least this is what I have noticed, anybody else notice this or know why? I picked up Tinkerbell and was holding her and a Pharaoh Hound kept jumping at her and at one point nipped at her, so we left. I can't imagine what I would have done if that dog grabbed her...and what would I have done if it was a mastiff?! |
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10-19-2009, 12:33 PM
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| Good points pawz!! Definitely they shouldn't all be seperate because some people have big and small together at home!! Quote: |
Another issue I see is having one dog leashed and walking inside the gated area...this is calling for disaster
| Sometimes people show up with leashed muzzled dogs at our dog park. First there are like 50 HUGE dog parks in the city for off leash, and hundreds for on leash.
I totally understand having a dog who cannot socialize and will attack...BUT don't take those to the dog park!! OMG
Mikey is the same when on leash, as most dogs are; they strain at the leash and that totally gives the wrong body language and can cause other dogs to act aggressive towards them. |
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10-19-2009, 12:40 PM
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| what I've heard is the dog on the ground can see the belly of the dog in your arms...and wants to either investigate or attack....ever see a dog go belly up at the dog park? Every dog in the park comes over to see....so it makes sence to me.
I have picked my dogs up.... and kneed dogs in the chest that weren't mine when they jumped up to see them...personally I don't pick up my dogs without a GOOD reason and if Iam picking them up Iam in protect/attack mode myself and mean business. I had to choke a dog out TWICE one time because when it couldn't get to Emma to pyscho hump anymore, it went for me.
I had a 120lb bull mastiff decide it wanted to hump Scooter (30lbs) and he was screaming in terror and I could not get the monster to let go of him...the giant breeds in the parks REALLY honestly make me very wary...even the huge guy that owned the dog had trouble getting him off of him..and that was just humping..what if it had been a fight? I think Scooter would have been dead.
Btw if a dog jumps on you... you have the legal right to defend yourself. Dogs have been deemed dangerous and even destroyed over jumping on people. Had I been the woman in the article... that mastiff would have had a fist to the face before it got to my dog.
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10-19-2009, 01:04 PM
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| Yes oh yes-you can protect yourself and your dog if needed! Carry a stick or whatever...we have a 'stud chain' we use to walk Mikey-it's half normal leash material and half chain (just because he chews his leash when he gets excited, so we got one, and he stopped-chain is not fun to chew on) so it could easily be a weapon if needed.
We've only come across one incident, but we'd heard about them previously; they are two pitts belong to one owner. They don't play but they stalk and attack dogs-and they bring them to the dog park. I kicked the dog to get it off Mikey-was not doing real damage at that point but was getting there and Mikey was upset. Owners were of course walking away already. Then we called Mikey and chased the dog off. When we see them coming, we just go in another direction and keep an eye.
Sad-becasue it could be any breed who does that, but these sh8%head owners are giving pitts a bad rap (not to mention that they are restricted here, and are not even allowed in dog parks, or out with no muzzle for that matter!!!) |
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10-19-2009, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Criosphynx what I've heard is the dog on the ground can see the belly of the dog in your arms...and wants to either investigate or attack....ever see a dog go belly up at the dog park? Every dog in the park comes over to see....so it makes sence to me.
I have picked my dogs up.... and kneed dogs in the chest that weren't mine when they jumped up to see them...personally I don't pick up my dogs without a GOOD reason and if Iam picking them up Iam in protect/attack mode myself and mean business. I had to choke a dog out TWICE one time because when it couldn't get to Emma to pyscho hump anymore, it went for me.
I had a 120lb bull mastiff decide it wanted to hump Scooter (30lbs) and he was screaming in terror and I could not get the monster to let go of him...the giant breeds in the parks REALLY honestly make me very wary...even the huge guy that owned the dog had trouble getting him off of him..and that was just humping..what if it had been a fight? I think Scooter would have been dead.
Btw if a dog jumps on you... you have the legal right to defend yourself. Dogs have been deemed dangerous and even destroyed over jumping on people. Had I been the woman in the article... that mastiff would have had a fist to the face before it got to my dog. | That totally makes sense!
Good point..if you cannot physically control your dog in case of emergency maybe its better to not allow this dog to be in a situation like at an off-leash dog park.
Harvick was humped by a husky who had a strong grip on him and the owner couldn't get the dog off himself, my bf had to HELP, since then Harvick has been weary about dogs even sniffing his rear, thanks a lot husky! This is why we don't take him to dog parks anymore.... |
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10-19-2009, 01:05 PM
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| Stud chain |
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10-19-2009, 01:07 PM
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#10 | | Dog Forum Team Member
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| I was at the park and a guy that I know (customer) brought in his unaltered Cane corso...which immediatly started to get into it with another largish unaltered male... both owners ignored the warning signs and they eventually fought....but the idiot who owned the corso didn't have a collar on his dog...and kept trying to grab him by the neck skin....normally I jump in and help but this was beyond stupid so I took my dogs and walked away quickly...
btw all my dogs are taught to auto recall if they hear a fight.  Som'thing worth teaching IMO |
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