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Old 09-27-2010, 10:21 PM
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Young dog tires easily

My dog is 1-1/2 years old and he is half black lab and half Dane. He basically looks like a long legged lab. Really a fast runner. We rescued him from the local shelter.

When I take him to the dog park he loves to run full out but he doesn't last too long before he wants to lay down and pant very rapidly. Also, on days over 65 F he overheats easily. When I first got him I had to pour cold water over him in the early Summer cause he appeared to be in trouble and overheating.

When I consult the vet she says everything looks fine.

Even when I run him on a cool day he comes in the house and pants for 20-30 minutes. He seems to need the activity or he wakes me up at 3 am and wants to play but when I run him he seems to have some distress after the activity. I have had him want to play so bad at 2 or 3 in the morning that he will tear around the bed in circles and around the house with his rear down low and rip all the covers off the bed. He is normally really well behaved and knows many commands but not enough physical activity and he goes completely nuts. He is really funny and quite the big goof but it isn't too entertaining at 3am. However it is impossible to get mad at him.

I know Great Danes tend to be a couch potato, but he seems to have very litle endurance for a young and happy dog. I have had Labs and Lab mixes for years and have never seen this before.

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Dave, Sorry not to have seen your post earlier. I hope you are still around to read this.

Has your vet checked your dog's thyroid level? Low thyroid is not uncommon, even in young dogs. It can cause dogs to appear tired, but also hyper at times as well.

I also think of heart issues as a possibility with the panting so much and over heating. But really its impossible to know what's going on with just a description. You need a vet to try harder to find the answers.

If you think there is something wrong, you are probably right. Maybe go back to the vet and insist on more tests, or try another vet. Owners usually have good instincts about these things!

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ditto tess, on the thyroid check

also, it isn't a good idea to exercise large breed dogs, like danes, too much, you don't want to run him much at all... if he chooses to run, that is a different story... as far as the energy level, it may just be this dog's normal level... just out of curiosity, what are you feeding him? that might make a difference...

lol, that funny, but not so cute at 3am behavior is called "zoomies" it may be that he wants more training to tire him out... you may want to consider getting/making him some interactive toys, like puzzle feeders, and upping the mental stimulation with some training games... things that make him think... are you familiar with clicker/marker training?
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I guess we are going to have to push back on the vet. He is not a huge dog (like a Dane typically is) but he seems to have the characteristics of a Dane which may mean he is just meant to have short bursts of energy and not longer sessions of exercise.

I have never heard the term "zoomies" but it is pretty hilarious when he does that.

He has been on a high quality lamb based food but I have gotten to the point of not trusting the pet food makers as there is so much BS out there about pet food. I really think vets selling food they hype is a lot like doctors selling Amway products to their patients.

Thanks for the replies .....

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ditto tess, on the thyroid check

also, it isn't a good idea to exercise large breed dogs, like danes, too much, you don't want to run him much at all... if he chooses to run, that is a different story... as far as the energy level, it may just be this dog's normal level... just out of curiosity, what are you feeding him? that might make a difference...

lol, that funny, but not so cute at 3am behavior is called "zoomies" it may be that he wants more training to tire him out... you may want to consider getting/making him some interactive toys, like puzzle feeders, and upping the mental stimulation with some training games... things that make him think... are you familiar with clicker/marker training?
I agree wholeheartedly.
At what times of the day do you provide mental stimulation and actual physical exercise....Perhaps you could adjust your schedule to have him exercise later in the evening, so he might not get the 3am zoomies

Also at what times do you feed him or do you free feed...that could play a part in his bursts of energy at inappropriate times
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P.S., About mental stimulation: I have been using really specific verbal markers. He is really bright and seems to be good at learning words. We work a lot on training.

He is not food triggered like my labs have always been in the past, but he does really like the Kong toys that have lots of hiding places for treats. I need to do more of this.

It is interesting but he responds mostly to affection as a reward. He is very social.

We stopped free feeding a while back because we made the connection that he eats too late and then needs to go out in the middle of the night. Also, He walks early in the morning with me and I need to move his evening walk to later...good point.

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is that him in your avatar pic? he sure is a handsome fella! lol labs sure are food motivated! hate to generalize by breed, and i'm sure that non-food motivated dogs are out there, but i've never met a lab that wasn't! definitely change up the schedule...

what do you mean that you "have been using really specific verbal markers"? just curious a verbal marker is one specific word, (often "yes" or "good") that you use to mark a specific behavior or a small step that builds up to a desired behavior (shaping) anyway... just curious on the praise vs treats, that is really rare, but some dogs do like praise food tho, is a less ambiguous reward, it may be that for training/shaping new behaviors, you need a higher value food... when training, in the house/low distraction area, i can use kibble, but outside/higher distractions, no way!....

anyway, i hope the schedule adjustment helps! we'd love to see more pics of your pup
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Yes, that is him in the avatar.

What I meant was voice commands instead of a clicker. I need to find some kind of treat that is irresistible to help with training since he is not so food motivated, although he does have thing about cheese. His training is going well but it would probably move things along a little easier.

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My dane had a similar up and down activity level. she'd get what i called "the zoomies" where she would RUN AND RUN AND RUN for like 5 minutes, and then just be OUT for an hour. She also woke me up in the middle of the night or VERY early in the morning ready to go out and play... maybe it's just their breed? I never owned a dane before her...

Can't hurt to get a blood panel done on him to see thyroid levels and organ functions and all, if you haven't already
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