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Old 07-11-2010, 09:03 AM
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Cool puppy stool still loose

Well.. Angie was on Flora which the vet put her on for a week. Her stool seemed to harden a little bit. She has had loose stool here and there while she was taking flora. But her stool is still loose. I have been feeding her
Blue buffalo chicken and brown rice for puppy. Any suggestions/advice?

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I'm certainly not the expert on dog nutrition, but I have had some experience when I first started feeding Tonka Iams Chicken, he did well, then started having very loose stool / diarrhea. I switched him (at that point) to Iams Lamb and rice, and that immediately cured MY dog's problem...not sure if you would have the same experience. Of course, I've since changed to Wellness - a grain-free formula, and there was some change in stool at first (for both dogs), but they're back to regularity. Does Blue Buffalo make a puppy formula that is not chicken? Maybe a food allergy?
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I agree change the meat first and see if that solves the problem. If that does not work it may be the grain and you mat have to go to grain free, but I don't think they make grain free puppy food. How old?
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My puppy had loose stool when she was on Blue Buffalo Lamb and Oatmeal, so I switched her over to Wellness.

How long has your puppy been on BB? I have talked to some people that say it take about 2 weeks for the stool to harden on BB (specifically a girl at a local petstore whose puppy is currently on BB told me this was the case with her puppy.) A representative from the company also said it could take some time.

Good luck. After battling loose stool in Gracie for over a month, I know what you are going through. Hers has finally firmed up after being on Wellness for three solid weeks.
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Did your vet say why they thought the loose stools were happening? Our dog has Fiber Responsive Colitis. Limit treats that can cause loose stools, rawhide is the worst. Increase fiber content in the diet, feed the highest fiber content food you can find, we use Pure Vita. I tried the Purina Forti-Flora but it was very expensive & did just the same as a $40 jar of live probiotic cultures at Petco that last 1.5mo, we give probiotics on each meal. As for dog treats I make most of mine now, its much cheaper and I can control the volume of fiber. One treat I make is a meat treat, I use liver, hearts, turkey breast...and any combination of. I buy veggies that are high in fiber, brown rice that is high in fiber and I add a little Metamucil - this all goes in my recipe then baked. Once done I then cut them in smaller treats and freeze, taking out only what I need for a day or two stored in the fridge. The other treat I make is peanutbutter oatmeal cookies with some things added. I also store these in the freezer and take out what I need but the dogs love these frozen too.

After all the changes we make Skyler's poop is normal 95% or more, of the time. Its what we found works for our dog, it took about 6mo to get it all figured out.
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:14 PM
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She is about 11 weeks. I am looking into grain free dog food now.
I am thinking of trying Wellness or canidae. Wellness is easier choice for me since I can get it at Wholefood store right down the street. ^^

Vet didn't say anything specific about her loose stool. We got a week worth of Purina Flora, and one med for a parasite - now I forget the name LOL. She is all done with both of them now.

Luv2byte- I DO admire your effort making all the food for the doggy. I am having a hard time to cook for myself and hubby!!!!
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We had problems with our dogs having loose stools on the blue buffalo as well. switching foods did help.

I've never used Purina Flora but absolutely love Bene-bac; it can be hard to find though. I finally found a 15mg tube at a speciality pet store. Otherwise, you can find 1oz tubes in the puppy bottle feeding section or the small pet area (same stuff, different name, a dollar cheaper @@) It's the same prinicipal...beneficial bacteria to help soothe the digestive tract.

If you're worried about a food allergy, I would try to find a food with limited ingredients (Natural Balance and other companies make these). It can help you rule out allergies as well as keep your puppy's tummy happy if they do have allergies. Chicken and lamb seem to be safe choices. Although you are feeding chicken now, maybe it's a grain issue?
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You can suppliment the same effects of forta flora with just a little knowledge of pre and pro biotics.

Here's an article I wrote for our local little paper about it. At least this may give you some ideas of whole foods you can incorporate into your dog's kibble regimen to aide in immune response.


Canine Health Spotlight

Probiotics: Good Bacteria
By
Kellee ****

If you’re the owner of a Boston Terrier or another little gas filled pooch, or if you have a dog that has a sensitive stomach, irregular bowl and frequent constipation or diarrhea listen up…there is help at the end of that gas riddled trail and hope for the pooch, and their human companion, with the most stubborn digestive tract. No it’s not some new magical pharmaceutical pill it’s an all natural substance called Probiotics.

What is a probiotic? The word "Probiotic" means "for life." Probiotics are beneficial bacteria, or good bacteria, that actually can help strengthen the body's natural defenses, and help restore the appropriate balance of healthy bacteria.To facilitate good health, live digestive plant enzymes assist your pet’s digestion and absorption of essential nutrients; they control harmful bacteria. Dried streptococcus, faccium fermentation product, dried lactobacillus, Acidophilus Fermentation product, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation product, Dried Saccharomyces cervisiae permentation product are all forms of probiotics.

To understand more about probiotics, let’s take a look at Prebiotics… Prebiotics are a category of functional food, defined as non-digestible food ingredients that beneficially affect the host by selectively stimulating the growth and/or activity of one or a limited number of bacteria in the colon, and thus improve host health. Most potential prebiotics are carbohydrates such as oligosaccharides, but the definition does not exclude the use of non-carbohydrates as prebiotics. The definition does not emphasize a specific bacterial group. Often, however, it is assumed that a prebiotic should increase the number and/or activity of bifidobacteria and lactic acid bacteria, probiotics, as these groups of bacteria are claimed to have several beneficial effects on the host. Typical dietary sources of prebiotics are soybeans, Jerusalem artichokes (which contain inulin), raw oats, unrefined wheat and unrefined barley.

Probiotics help with intestinal balance because the basic makeup of intestinal bacteria was established very early in life. You may not realize that bacteria are continually introduced into the body as a normal part of daily life. However, at times, the result is a cascading effect that ends in noticeable digestive upset as the body attempts to return to its normally balanced state. The goal of a probiotic supplement is to maintain the optimal bacterial balance and provide a natural defense against this cascading effect. Common factors that can disrupt the digestive balance are changes in diet or surroundings, levels of stress, illness, and the use of some medications, particularly antibiotics. New research has found that individuals or pets who suffer from frequent digestive upsets, such as people who are diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), may have a pronounced disruption of bacterial balance, which is thought to contribute to their symptoms.

Some of the potential benefits that have been assisted by the use of probiotics are: managing lactose intolerance, prevention of colon cancer, cholesterol lowering, lowering blood pressure, improving immune function and preventing infections, reducing inflammation, improving mineral absorption, prevents harmful bacterial growth under stress, irritable bowel syndrome and colitis.
There is no published evidence that probiotic supplements are able to replace the body’s natural flora when these have been killed off. Bacterial levels in feces disappear within days when supplementation ceases. There is evidence, however, that probiotics do form beneficial temporarycolonies which may assist the body in the same functions as the natural flora, while allowing the natural flora time to recover from depletion. The probiotic strains are then progressively replaced by a naturally developed gut flora. Hence, probiotics have been defined as correctives of the ecoorgan. If the conditions which originally caused damage to the natural gut flora persist, the benefits obtained from probiotic supplements will be short lived.

Some of the products that are available to the public to suppliment probiotics in your pet are Gentle Digest , Natural Probiotic for Pets, available at Gentle Digest , Natural Probiotic for Pets - 60 Caps, Total-Biotics available at Home page, Ultra probiotic powder available at Dog nutrition for arthritis, joint, cancer, heart, kidney, bladder, liver, reproductive system, senior care, stress, anxiety, yeast, and fungal. Fish oil, essential fatty acids, EFA, green foods, kelp, herbs, herbal formulas, immune support, vitamins, and Ration Plus™ Supplements for Dogs available at PetSmart. I have personally not tested the effects of any of these products on my pets, but do believe in the benefits they can provide especially to the aging or ill dog or cat in your household. I can not endorse the reliability of these products, it is best to research them yourself and make an educated decision.

Any questions regarding the use of probiotics please consult your local veterinarian.

.I certainly think that Blue Buffalo is too rich for pups. I haven't seen many do entirely too well with it. I totallya gree that simpler is better. I would suggest checking out a line at tractor supply called 4 Health. For the low price it really is a decent food. 4 Health Dog Food Even tho it isn't on their site I know they have a puppy formula, and I would rather see a pup on a higher fat diet such as their chicken variety at 15% fats. Pups need higher fats to build major muscle groups such as heart and brain.

Is that your pup in your avitar? Norfolk terrier? Why the ecollar? recent surgery? Anesthesia can produce soft stools in a dog for up to a week (in some more sensitive dogs, like very young or seniors) after surgery.

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I ended up grabbing APD Select Choice Chicken Meal & Rice Formula Puppy Food since a store staff strongly recommended. It's not grain free. And added probiotics called Probios from Petco.(Excellent article, Dogshrink! I have more options for probiotics) and also feed her potato, sweet potato and carrot all mashed together, with some yogurt in the morning. It has gotten a lot better yet she still has loose stools. I was going to change kibbles again but decided to give some more time so that Angie's body could adjust to the kibbles. I hear changing kibbles too often is not a good thing for puppies either. I will get her tested again for worms, just to be sure.

She is Dachshund and terrier mix. Vet put a cone on her for about a week since she was licking stitches from the spay surgery. Now her ears wouldn't come down!! It's all pointy like a donkey!LOL. I hope they would come down again eventually. She is now 11wks or so. She was spayed around 8~9wk, I estimate.
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Wow SUPER young to be spayed... way to early imo but what's done is done. As far as the new food, you should keep her on any new food for at least 2-3 weeks to give her time to transition and adapt to the new food. Did you do a cold change over or a gradual one? At 11 weeks old her digestive tract is still super immature so teh simpler the food teh better. I think you might be giving her too much resh veggeis at her age. I think just sticking with the plain yogurt of probiotics (about a tablespoon for her size) and some old fashioned oats (about 1/2 tablespoon-ish) to help absorb the excess moisture in her GI (as well as providing another source of protein) would be best at this juncture. She has a VERY immature GI suystem and all these changes all of a sudden with all the suppliments are going to negatively impact her. When the system is still developing you don't want to overload it ith all kinds of stuff to "make things better" it is best to let her adjust on her own with as little additives as possible at this point until she's a bit older. Simple is best at this age. The things we do to help can often harm at this age. At 11 weeks old her body is just starting to adjust to even eating hard food coming from mother's milk. If you interfere too much with a developing system she doesn't develop the proper gut flora that she needs to properly digest food. At this age she doesn't need digestive enhancers, and all that stuff, she just needs time to mature and develop on her onw.
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