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Old 01-07-2014, 12:46 PM
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I am still waiting for Duke's dr to call me back from yesterday and I was wondering if Holly or another vet on here could answer for me. I went to today and got Duke "Nature Made Milk Thistle, 140 mg extract"
How many would I give to my dog, he is 70 lbs.

I am still waiting for them to fax in the prescription for his lactulose also.

I wanted to ask them a question too, but like I said they arent calling me back. Duke has been peeing like crazy, every 2 hours and his poop has an orangish tint to it. Is this normal with liver problems?
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I would give 70mg. Preferable would be this: Denamarin for Dogs

The sAME is also a component that would be good to have.

The urination and poop color can be from liver disease but obviously can be from other things as well (UTI, parasites respectively).


Hasn't it been a week? They didn't have lactulose to send home with you??
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He is on Sam-e. They have him on 600-800mg per day. I have him on the human version, I saw the Denamarin but that is very expensive. I got the milk thistle buy one get one free at cvs.

They didnt tell me to start the lactulose till Saturday after we got the results. My fiance works at a pharmacy so i thought we might not a written one but we do. I called them yesterday and still havent faxed it in yet or called me back.



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I would give 70mg. Preferable would be this: Denamarin for Dogs

The sAME is also a component that would be good to have.

The urination and poop color can be from liver disease but obviously can be from other things as well (UTI, parasites respectively).


Hasn't it been a week? They didn't have lactulose to send home with you??
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Also, they do have lactulose there but it is $60 for the 475 ml bottle which is triple the price of my fiances work or 1-800-pet meds.

With the milk thistle capsules, just break it in half and just pour it in on some food then?

We never got a regular urine same or a fecal sample done, he is on the amoxocilin, will that treat it if he has a uti, or is another antibiotic needed for that? I can get the urine tested and the fecal sample done. We only took urine for the lepto test
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Call again or go pick it up from them. It should not be prolonged if they truly think encephalopathy is his problem.

It worries me that you're seeing urine/poop changes... The orange poop may be bilirubin (from the liver) in the poop. Was his bilirubin normal on his bloodwork?
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Yes, I'd just break it and pour it on food.

You may want to drop off urine to test for a UTI. Amoxicillin should take care of it but doesn't always.
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Sometimes you need to pay more for the initial meds so you have time to find subsequent ones cheaper but not prolong treatment.

I paid $200 for an inhaler for my Asthma cat at CVS and now get them from an online pharmacy for $30 a piece. It was a necessary initial expense.
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The only thing they told me was high was the two liver levels which both started with an A. What does the high bilirubin mean? Does the changes mean he is in worse shape? I am seeing some improvement with the neurological behavior.

I didnt want to make them mad at me by calling too much, I called twice yesterday. But if you think he should start immediately, I will call them again.

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Call again or go pick it up from them. It should not be prolonged if they truly think encephalopathy is his problem.

It worries me that you're seeing urine/poop changes... The orange poop may be bilirubin (from the liver) in the poop. Was his bilirubin normal on his bloodwork?
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What color is his urine? Look very carefully.

IF the bilirubin is elevated, then yes, he's likely worse. As the bilirubin goes up, he'll start to look jaundiced (slightly yellow tint best seen on the whites of his eyes, his inner ears, his gums and skin under his fur).

Do you see him drinking more water?
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His color the other day when he peed in the snow was a light yellow color. He is drinking tons of water. He is on prednisone but we tapered down and he started with more after.
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