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Old 12-13-2010, 06:28 PM
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My mom has keesies, and I can tell you that it was pounded in my head to NEVER shave a double coated dog, especially one of the arctic breeds.

The guard hairs just don't grow back. It takes years, literally, and the coat may never come back as it once was. The only reason to shave an arctic breed is because its matted past the point where it can be safely brushed, as in an abuse situation.

The guard hairs protect the coat from the heat, cold, insects and dirt. Plus, with out the guard hairs there, the undercoat will come in coarse and fuzzy, and often changes to an unfortunate texture.

From that point on, the coat will be harder to groom and will no longer be water proof. If you have ever tried to wash a keeshond or a samoyed, you'll understand what I mean. It is almost impossible to get a sammy wet all the way through. That's the way its supposed to be.

If you can wash your spitz breed and you have no trouble soaking it through to the skin, then you've damaged the coat.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:22 PM
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Wow, I learned something new. I'm used to single coat dogs (maltese and yorkie) and I rescue a breed who had thick and what I think it's wiry hair. It wasn't even nice to touch. I used clippers to trim him and gave him a shnauzer cut. Now I can feel his soft coat. So to get it straight I ruin his coat even if it feels nicer (softer)?
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anything with an undercoat, it's a big no no to shave them because they need that to stay warm/keep dirt out. Most dogs it's alright... but some breeds is BAD for them. Never ask a groomer, PS. I asked my step mom (a groomer) what to do about tegan's shedding and she said to shave him- asked my vet and they said that would be bad for him!
Oh goodness! I work at a grooming salon and we always try and discourage people from shaving their double-coated dogs. It doesn't help with shedding, it just makes the pieces smaller. In my opinion, dogs like german shepards, huskies, poms, etc, look completely funny shaved as well. They look like they have a weird farmer's tan. ^_^
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at the kennel i used to work at the groomers would shave down all breeds, even the owner of the business would have his golden shaved down. one of my fellow employees, who had Alaskan malamutes, had told me you never shave down a dbl coated dog. i didnt think anything of it because growing up i had a rough collie and the summers we didnt shave him down (and we brushed him and kept up with his coat) he would get hot spots all over his body, it was never for shedding (as we took care of it with frequent brushing) but his coat always came back in and it always felt and looked the same. we later (once we moved) figured out the hot spots had something to do with the carpeting (the new house had hardwood floors and he never had a hot spot again) but i guess it all depends on the dog?
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Along the same thread but a bit of a vent....I am getting tired of owners waiting til their dog is matted, stinking and starting to get sores before getting them shaved to fix their neglect. Apparently this is a nice holiday treat for their dogs as I have done a great many such dogs of late.
At least most of these are dogs that are 'supposed' to be shaved. Spaniels are a filthy favorite. Big clue, if your dog can't walk properly because mats are snagging it's legs and tummy....Or if it can't hear because it's ears are matted two inches think. Another clue...if your dog smells like excrement...probably what is in those big mats on it's butt.
Nice upside....it is great to see (and smell) the improvement.
One of my ex boyfriend's neighbor's had a golden who would get wicked mats behind his ears. His owners shave him every spring to keep him cool, then by fall the fur would grow back in and then they'd never brush him...so he's get tight mats behind his ears. This was in a rich neighborhood too...so they could afford to groom the dog easily. But I could never figure out why they let him get this way. It was also a neighborhood where everyone just let their dogs wonder around freely. This same golden was dumb as rocks and used to sleep in the middle of the street and wouldn't move for cars.


Anywho...just as clarification, are you talking about shaving a dog completely bald? Like Chinese Crested bald? (I know these dogs are naturally hairless...just using it as a comparison.) Or just trimming the fur close to the body?

This may not be true with all breeds, but I've never seen a ruined coat from being clipped. It's very humid here in the summer, so a lot of owners trim their dogs' coats down very short. My co worker goes camping in the summer and she trims down her Aussie because it gets all matted from swimming in ponds and lakes, plus she gets overheated when her coat is long in the summer. It looks normal though when it grows back.

Perhaps if a dog has preexisting bald spots on their skin, they might be more noticeable when the dog is shaved and therefore look like the shaving caused it? When the fur is long...it hides these bald spots? Just asking...I'm no groomer and I've only shaved dogs for surgeries, IV placements, wound cleaning, and in neglect cases.

I do not think shaving causes hotspots though, there must be some other underlying condition present. In the ICU, we had to make sure immobile dogs were moved around frequently so they didn't develop hotspots from pressure points. Hotspots can also be caused by a dog scratching/biting/licking it's skin frequently. The skin irritation causes the trauma that leads to a hotspot. Allergies and parasites are often base causes for hotspots.

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This may not be true with all breeds, but I've never seen a ruined coat from being clipped. It's very humid here in the summer, so a lot of owners trim their dogs' coats down very short. My co worker goes camping in the summer and she trims down her Aussie because it gets all matted from swimming in ponds and lakes, plus she gets overheated when her coat is long in the summer. It looks normal though when it grows back.
A litle offtopic. But a well brushed out aussie with no undercoat impacting the coat is not going to over heat in Massasshuates summer. this is a working breed made in the western USA, so bred for the weather of the USA. Coat getting matted from swimming is a coat that is either impacted, or not brushed after. so poor grooming on the owners part. My dog swims almost daily in the summer, and I never had a problem with mats building up with his long thick coat.
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A litle offtopic. But a well brushed out aussie with no undercoat impacting the coat is not going to over heat in Massasshuates summer. this is a working breed made in the western USA, so bred for the weather of the USA. Coat getting matted from swimming is a coat that is either impacted, or not brushed after. so poor grooming on the owners part. My dog swims almost daily in the summer, and I never had a problem with mats building up with his long thick coat.
It's not my dog, so I don't know. I know she does brush the dogs and get them groomed regularly. I can just imagine that it's hard keeping the dog's coat clean when you're out in the middle of the woods for a week at a time.
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:56 AM
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I have a friend who shaves her Border Collie Cross every summer and it has completely ruined his coat. His winter coat is so scraggly that I would be afraid to leave him outside in the winter (and it has been a cold one this year! We are still reaching -17c some days) I wish I had a picture of him! When he comes on trail rides with us in the summer you will always find him up ahead of us waiting in a cool mud puddle in the shade
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It's not my dog, so I don't know. I know she does brush the dogs and get them groomed regularly. I can just imagine that it's hard keeping the dog's coat clean when you're out in the middle of the woods for a week at a time.
Not hard at all. I camp ALOT with my dog. bring a brush and comb. I wouldnt think about leaving with out one in my "emergency dog pack" if your in the bush, youll want to beable to brush the dog to get twigs, burrs ect out. Sorry I know its not your dog.

When we did a 4 week road trips with Blaze. I brough so much grooming crap, hardly used any of it (im talking lippers, blades, brushs, nail clippers, ect ect ect) But I had it. It took up enough room in the truck, that we really couldnt spare, but had to make room for it.
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Not hard at all. I camp ALOT with my dog. bring a brush and comb. I wouldnt think about leaving with out one in my "emergency dog pack" if your in the bush, youll want to beable to brush the dog to get twigs, burrs ect out. Sorry I know its not your dog.

When we did a 4 week road trips with Blaze. I brough so much grooming crap, hardly used any of it (im talking lippers, blades, brushs, nail clippers, ect ect ect) But I had it. It took up enough room in the truck, that we really couldnt spare, but had to make room for it.
haha. I can't defend her. I have no idea the details of her canine care. She's a Vet Tech like me. We just do the best we know for our dogs...and luckily most of the time they adapt just fine. That's why I keep short coated dogs only...easy fur care!
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