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Old 02-27-2011, 12:18 PM
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i got my Lhasa shaved down thursday the 24th. his hair was about 3-4 inches long at the time, and is now about 1/8 an inch. i had the groomer go super short because he has a very hard time dealing with heat. we had a 75*f day and we went to go play outside (which he LOVES) but he wanted nothing to do with being outside (another thing he loves) now after his groom hes incredibly clingy, kind of skittish, and just not himself. the grooming service i used is a mobile groomer so he was away from us for a total of 45 minutes and didnt get stuck in a cage and didnt see any other dogs. what im wondering is do you think he will get back to normal? should i talk to his vet? (we have a vet appointment march 10th anyway for a followup vaccine and to start on antibiotics for his lyme) it was cute at first but now its gotten to the point where he barks at the door when i leave (we live in an apartment complex) and he no longer initiates play and when we get distracted from playing with him instead of him shoving the toy into our arm/hand/leg he just curls up on the couch and sleeps.

sorry this was so long winded. im just worried about my mini-man
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Sounds like the grooming may have been very traumatizing for him. I'd take it easy on him for a few days and let him mentally recover. Make sure his life is stress free and give him lots of treats and encouragement to cheer him up.

And yes, it would be a very good idea to get the vet to check him out to make sure there is nothing medically wrong with him. A radical change in behavior can indeed have medical causes and you would not want to miss something crucial.
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yeah we have kind of been babying him. ill ask the vet about it on the 10th. his last groom b4 he was fine, but was kind of nasty to the groomer. i might just buy clippers and start doing it myself (pet edge has some for a reasonable price)
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It sure sounds like grooming has become very unpleasant for him... one might even speculate that from his perspective it is a life threatening experience. When a dog is "nasty to the groomer" it is because the dog is extremely frightened and trying to defend himself.

I agree, time to get your own clippers and work with him slowly to counter condition him. Maybe you can work him similar to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZUcLfHXLE


you are going to need to go slowly because your poor dog already is freaked out by the grooming routine.

Here's another useful video that explains this counter conditioning really well.

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those videos are fantastic thank you! i think im going to try grooming him myself. once i get good at it i can groom my mothers dogs too she has a shih tzu and a lhasa apso
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those videos are fantastic thank you! i think im going to try grooming him myself. once i get good at it i can groom my mothers dogs too she has a shih tzu and a lhasa apso
Glad you liked the videos.

You might plan to do many, many sessions with him for counter conditioning in which you have absolutely no goals of getting any real grooming done.... just the counter conditioning. Keep your sessions short, maybe 5 minutes and be sure not to pressure him at all... don't elicit any defensive behaviors at all, just make it all positive. Start by letting him see the clippers, click/treat. Do that several times, and call that enough. Then the next session bring the clippers closer (but keep them off) c/t etc.
Work your way very slowly towards having the clippers turned on and near him. Keep watching him for signs of defense/stress. Spending a few weeks on this, with a couple of short sessions per day, will ultimately save you a life time of frustration and stress. If you go to fast, and push him, this will be a life long battle.

Good luck, and do let us know how things go!
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thanks for the info. i actually used some of the counter conditioning today to clean his ears and it worked well. he even let me pluck his ear hair which is usually a long process of very short plucking sessions through out the day.
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thanks for the info. i actually used some of the counter conditioning today to clean his ears and it worked well. he even let me pluck his ear hair which is usually a long process of very short plucking sessions through out the day.

That's awesome! Sounds like you really have a knack with him. Yeah, "just say no" to the groomers that have scared your boy. I think lots of bad stuff goes on behind closed doors. I got a glimpse of our local groomer the other day cuffing a dog around a little. I bet if the owners knew what was going on they would not bring their dog in. I'm sure there are gentle and good groomers out there too, but my guess is a lot of them are impatient to just get the job done so they can keep the cash flowing in.
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i used to work at a dog kennel and i would sometimes peek in our grooming room and they would get kinda rough with the dogs & if a dog was being nasty they would yell at it (freaking the dog out more) working there i learned a lot and im now a firm believer that any bad behavior can be worked on, no dog is a lost hope it just take time
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You said it yourself, you are babying him. which is why he cries when you leave, and acts all "sad" since he gets babying attention from you.

Sounds like he is also not used to being groomed often (if his hair was that long and your normally get it cut very short)

Also only 45mins to groom him? That sounds way off. bathing and blowdrying would take almost that long alone.

If you have the money, by all means buy your own stuff. it is very expensive to start buying it all though.

As for what you seen with groomers being rough. It can look like they are rough when they are restraining a dog.
I bet if any one seen me on any given day they would think i was rough. But Im trying to hold a dog down for its own saftey. A jumping dog, fidgity dog can end up hurt in a matter of seconds. Alot of dogs are very agressive. Id rather hold them a weird way then get bit myself. one wrong bite will ruin my career.
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