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Old 05-04-2010, 02:14 AM
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The chicken mince/veggie mix i feed my pups has garlic in it (i buy it from a well known lab breed, he makes it).

Garlic is not harmful to dogs IF fed correctly, It's only harmful if you're feeding something like 4 cloves daily.

I've argued this to a te and i will still feed it as how i feed it.. is not harming my dogs!
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:33 AM
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tomatoes are great for dogs. remember that the food is processed. garlic is also great. Brewers yeast with garlic has been on the market for years.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:36 AM
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as far as pork goes. pork is great. i think its being over generalized. my vet says no pork because more specifically there is so much salt and fat on a pork bone that dogs were having pancreatic issues. i would feed ground pork but i wouldnt ever feed left over spiraled ham, pork bones, bacon, sausages etc. its the salt andd fat content that lead to pancreatitis.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:31 PM
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tomato pomace is used for those little compact poops people like so much. It is fiber and of no nutritional value but also not harmful. Some foods use stool hardening agents like sodium bentonite or powdered cellulose or ground peanut shells. Beet pulp or tomato pomace is a healthier choice
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Old 05-26-2010, 05:18 PM
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I've never heard or read that pork is bad for dogs.
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Perhaps that it's fatty and full of parasites so you have to cook it really well.

Anyways I'll answer the original question: Because people buy it.

Your dog does not have a credit card, the food is marketed for you. A dog food containing tomatoes sounds natural and healthy and sells. So they put it in.
Wellness CORE Grain Free Original Dry - Healthy Dog Foods?

Those milkbones are colored so YOU buy them. Dogs have poor or no color vision and every bone tastes the same. They are colored because consumers buy them, it sells.

This is extremely prevelant in rabbit treats. Yogurt drops can kill rabbits, and the gourmet food they sell can cause blockages and intestinal imbalances. And yet every pet store is stocked with them....because.they.sell.

That's why it's so important as a pet owner to educate yourself and be an advocate for your pets health. Vote with your dollars, and shop with your mind (the part of your mind that reads ingredients and does not like shiny things lol)



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tomatoes are great for dogs. remember that the food is processed. garlic is also great. Brewers yeast with garlic has been on the market for years.
That's completely wrong and dangerous advice.

Brewers yeast cannot be activiated or it will kill your dog via alcohol poisoning; your talking about it being used topically and you should say that. Brewers yeast that is activated WILL kill your dog if they eat it. (as will raw dough)

Tomatoes are toxic and the plant is too; It has an LD50 which is a dose that will kill 1/2 of all dogs administered that dose. Doesn't sound healthy to me...
Tomatoes-Avoid/Potentially Toxic-Ingredient Atropine. LD50 0.022-0.044 mg/kg. Ingredient tomatine. (Symptoms: lethargy, drooling, difficulty breathing, colic, vomiting, diarhea, dialated pupils, paralysis, cardiac symoptoms, coma and death).[Treatment: veterinary attention immediately]

Garlic can be toxic
Onions & Garlic-Avoid/Potentially Toxic-Ingredient Thiosulfate. Have been episodes of death-causes hemolytic anemia in high quantities.(Symptoms: Weakness, diarhea, lethargy, difficulty breathing, pale/blue gums, increased heart rate, death)[Treatment: supportive treatment, removal from source).

http://www.entirelypets.com/toxicfoods.html
http://lacetoleather.com/fataltodogs.html
http://www.dogfoodscoop.com/dangerou...-for-dogs.html
http://www.dog-first-aid-101.com/toxic-foods.html
http://www.humanesociety.org/animals...s_to_pets.html
http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/ask-th...ple-foods.html

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Old 05-26-2010, 06:55 PM
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I think you may be thinking about tomato plant. They can be very toxic but tomatoes while acidic are not toxic to dogs. I think you may be mistaken about the brewers yeast. I think what you are talking about is the yeast we use to make bread and that is an entirely different thing. I have used brewers yeast to combat fleas for years with no ill affects and its great for there skin and coat.

Dog owners give their pets brewer's yeast for a variety of different reasons.
First, brewer's yeast is a great source of B vitamins such as biotin, trace minerals such as zinc, proteins, and amino acids. The amino acids and vitamins can help make your dog's skin healthier and its coat shinier.
Second, brewer's yeast is often recommended by holistic vets to help strengthen dogs' immune systems. According to the Encyclopedia of Natural Pet Care, in one study, brewer's yeast was shown to protect chickens from salmonella-tainted feed.
Brewer's yeast is also a common natural remedy for dogs with fleas. Holistic veterinarian Richard Pitcairn recommends it for that purpose. It is thought to work against fleas because it contains sulfur compounds that make your dog less palatable to fleas.
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FWIW I read a recent article that refuted that the tomato's leaves were indeed toxic...I'll have to dig it up.


I don't know enough about dog food to argue this deep. Ask me if corn is bad...I can answer that.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:57 PM
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I hate to debate food b/c my parents do NOT feed high quality food and their dogs live longer than the breed standards. I choose to feed higher quality foods but sometimes really do not think the "bad" stuff is so bad.
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First-just because something has not killed your dog does not make it ok. I've been smoking for ten years and I'm not dead-does that make cigarettes a healthy choice?


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I think you may be thinking about tomato plant. They can be very toxic but tomatoes while acidic are not toxic to dogs
I'm not actually confused here-tomatoes are toxic-please look it up. The plant is toxic, so is the fruit.

I do concede on the brewers yeast-my bad-I'm no chef and was picturing normal yeast Brewers is a different form

I do stand by my tomatoes-plants and all.

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FWIW I read a recent article that refuted that the tomato's leaves were indeed toxic...I'll have to dig it up.
There is debate, and I will keep an open mind and look forward to the article, but I'm sorry when an LD50 has been established I really have to go with that. That's vigorous science Median lethal dose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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