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Old 08-20-2010, 06:03 PM
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He was positvely starved...no question. There are no shelters anywhere around...and I didn't ask the ASPCA or Humaine Society for treatment..I asked them for phone numbers for vets that might hepl anywhere near my location.

No...I am not, nor will I let you tell me that I am being cruel. Period. I was looking for help on here..a receipe to be exact, but....I would LOVE to take this dog to a vet..LOVE IT! I don't even have him yet and if i determine that he is in too bad of shape for me to handle, then i will re evaluate my situation...until then..I'm all he has and I will do my very best to help this dog.

I'm done here..this was not the way I expected to be treated on here.

Thanks for the links Tess...I truely appreciate the info, have read it and will consider all of it. THANKS!
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:22 PM
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I am so sorry you feel bad from what was said here. You are clearly a compassionate person. I hope you would reconsider withdrawing from this forum and maybe let us know how Brutis does. I have been thinking of him since you posted earlier today.

I think we all may have jumped to the worst conclusions about the situation with the dog before you have even seen him yet.

Maybe, just maybe, we can all be friends? I mean, everyone here has the same love for dogs... we might just have not communicated very well. I'm just guessing. I've seen these sorts of problems on internet forums before. I just think that if all of us were in a room together, we would get on great together. Electronic communication can be misleading and can cause hurt feelings. I've been on Liz's end before and it really is unpleasant.

Just hoping for world peace, as usual...
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:44 PM
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Hug-fest!!!

You have to remember, folks on the interwebs, especially when speaking to a specific passion of theirs will reliably indicate the utmost in conservativeness, often without waiver. I've been on the board for awhile and I know that neither fawkese1 nor pawzaddict are giving their opinions for the sake of confrontation, nor are they necessarily judging YOU. They are putting themselves in your shoes and telling you what they would do presented with a similar situation. At the same time, they may not truly grasp your position, as it's a personal one.

I do believe that, if the dog is truly unhealthily starved / emaciated, care must be exercised when taking over the responsibility for his health and wellbeing, ultimately his life or his death. Not trying to be harsh, but we're all adults, we've all seen the worst in the way some humans treat animals, so until you get ahold of this pup, there's really no telling what the condition could be.

Please don't rule out the possibility of a vet visit, because you're heading into a blind situation. However, optimism has it's place here, for the dog's sake, that it won't be absolutely necessary.

I know you indicated your departure, but I for one am interested in the dog's condition, and hearing the happy ending...
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:02 PM
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I would do small frequent meals of boiled chicken breast (boneless, skinless) and rice for awhile. These foods are bland.

Of course, provide clean fresh water and keep him separated from your dogs- no sharing dishes and stuff since you do not know his health status.
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I ran out of time but I wanted to add that maybe you could find a vet willing to work with you on costs or a boxer rescue that could take over his care.
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and I didn't ask the ASPCA or Humaine Society for treatment..I asked them for phone numbers for vets that might hepl anywhere near my location.
This is not their job either...you have a computer, google vets in the nearby cities. Also I think its best for the dog if you look into rescues, especially boxer rescues, outside of your city.

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I don't even have him yet and if i determine that he is in too bad of shape for me to handle
I am not trying to be rude to you, I am trying to be straight forward and honest...you are not a vet...you can LOOK at the dog but cannot determine the damage done necessarily. Bloodwork, xrays, ultra sounds....these things can.

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I'm done here..this was not the way I expected to be treated on here.
This is a very passionate subject..you are talking about somebody starving a dog and the dog not receiving any medical treatment even once out of this persons "care". We are going to be honest with you, take it as you will.

Fawkese said it best...you are going to be responsible for this dog once it is in your care, so you should be careful and take precaution.

Also Tonka ty for everything you said
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:46 PM
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Here's the deal...I own 2 small very healthy dogs. Tonight I am taking in a starving Boxer...literally, this dog would be dead after the weekend if no intervention.

All the experts say to feed a starving dog meat based puppy chow in 4-6 small feedings. This worries me since there could already be internal damage. So what I'm trying to find is a homeade concoction that will provide high protien and is easily digestable. Anyone know of a recipe I can try?

Any input will be appreciated. Thanks...
you can go 1 to 1 with meat and rice or long cook oats or you can do meat and steamed sweet potato. you can go raw on the meat or cook it your preference. you could use ground turkey, chicken or beef. People say that dogs don't digest grains so if you prefer use the sweet potato. I rescued one like you are talking about she had been under a house for a week feeding 9 puppies and the only thing she could keep down at first was oats mixed with broth. I used to cook the long cooked oats with the chicken broth. make sure it is low sodium. The oats are very healing. It might be a good idea for the first week. Also you will need a good supplement I use one called Canine its very well balanced. It will help rebuild the immune system.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:45 PM
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The closest town is an hour and a half away. I AM NOT CRUEL...I don't even know anyone who would put themselves in my position. I have NO CAR...I live in a very very small town. I am trying to do the right thing by this dog...if i can save him, I will.
fwiw, i did not call YOU cruel, i said that denying a dog in need, medical attention is cruel, and it is, legally.
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literally, this dog would be dead after the weekend if no intervention.
this describes a dog that requires medical attention. if you do not have the means to provide this, then you should find someone who can... end of story, i'm sorry that you see my concern for the welfare of this animal, that has obviously already suffered neglect at the hands of humans, as a personal attack on you, but really this isn't about you, this is about helping this animal, that is why you posted, is it not? again, my intention is not to offend you, but i cannot remain silent just to uphold niceties in situations like this.
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I have called all the shelters anywhere near here and they say if the dog is in bad shape, they will euthanize instead of putting the resources into him.
what region are you located in? if the dog is that far gone, than euthanizing may be the more humane end for him... sad as that is, good intentions are not excuse enough to do this...
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If you don't have a receipe for me, then why bother posting to me...I'm doing the very best I can.
i am posting because i love animals, and the welfare of this one matters to me, it is a hard pill to swallow, but sometimes our best isn't good enough and we need to call in an expert to help out, or hand the situation to someone with the means to do what needs to be done.

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I'm done here..this was not the way I expected to be treated on here.
no one has mistreated you, i have obviously posted something that you didn't want to read and i apologize that you took offense to that, but i do not apologize for posting it, if the dog is as close to death as you described, he needs medical attention. your intentions are good, and your compassion is appreciated, without a doubt, but again, sometimes that isn't enough...

as the others have posted, we all hope that you stick around and update us on brutis, and as i posted before, i will keep him in my thoughts and hope for the best for him to recover...again, good luck.
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I wish I could afford to take him to the vet or a car to take him...I don't
THIS statement is maybe why we are questioning why you are taking on this dog. If you cannot afford the vet you cannot afford the pet.

I'm sorry you feel that's not nice.
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Maybe if you post your general area, we can all help you look for rescues/havens that could take this poor guy in and that have the proper funding. Sometimes private transport is available for situations like this. The internet can be a wonderful resource and many dog lovers working together can usually come up with a viable solution...
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