Greenies!

**Brittany** · 03-13-2010, 05:19 PM

MV I didn't want to get your thread off topic.

I give Kimber and Kelsey's greenies about once a week. Is unsafe for all dogs or just small dogs? They love them but if there is a problem I don't want to continue giving them.

MySoulmateEmmy · 03-13-2010, 05:45 PM

I can't remember completely but I think it was causing obstruction issues cus it wasn't being digested and some dogs even died from it, later the Greenies company said they re-formulated the greenies chews so it would be digested better. (though I am not exactly sure how much better)

~MSE

**Mikey** · 03-13-2010, 06:18 PM

What she said

I just don't give anything that's iffy though-some people love them -I'm just too protective I guess-I won't chance it.

Here's some links-though you can just google it too

snopes.com: Greenies
GREENIES WARNING
FDA Investigates Greenies Following KIRO 7 Investigation - Money News Story - KIRO Seattle
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/doc...-0126-EC18.htm

Luv2byte · 03-13-2010, 07:51 PM

After I posted this in MV's post I saw this one, it is better posted in this thread....

I did a quick net search since all the links posted were old dates. I didn't find any articles after 2006 that mentioned they caused a problem. It was Nov 2006 they released the new formulation of Greenies.

Review of Greenies for dogs | Pet-Product-Review.com
Are Greenies Bad for Dogs? | eHow.com

**Mikey** · 03-13-2010, 11:49 PM

Totally it does seem like they resolved it-I just am so neurotic lol I wouldn't feed anything that's had that kind of problems you know? So caution is due-and really I do advise people to steer clear of them. I think that if a product has caused death they don't deserve to get a second chance imho.

On top of that-whether they resolved it or not-I've found nothing that states that they came clean about the problem ingredient ("changed their formula" is not good enough in my book), why it was used in the first place, or did anything to compensate those people who lost their furbabies (Nothing would make up for it-but paying the vet bills would be nice-I've seen nothing saying they did that). So to be honest, changing their formula and not apologizing (their is nothing on their website even acknowledging problems in the past that have been rectified) is not trustable in my book.

Luv2byte · 03-14-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey

Totally it does seem like they resolved it-I just am so neurotic lol I wouldn't feed anything that's had that kind of problems you know? So caution is due-and really I do advise people to steer clear of them. I think that if a product has caused death they don't deserve to get a second chance imho.

I'm not being sarcastic, just realistic....does this mean you don't eat hamburger, peanut butter, fish and a wide variety of other foods and brands that have had recalls due to illness and death? What about your car? Nearly every car manufacturer has had recalls of some sort, some due to death (heck, look at Toyota right now).

I think if the company went through the changes they needed to make, there hasn't been a reported concern since mid 2006, trust me I tried to find one, that they should be applauded for taking responsibility to fix the problem & improve their product? I understand being nervous but there needs to be reasoning behind it, I think.

I try to do what is best for my pets, make choices I feel is correct for me, everyone needs to do the same. I just felt the need to point out the extreme examples.

**Mikey** · 03-14-2010, 03:36 AM

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I'm not being sarcastic, just realistic....does this mean you don't eat hamburger, peanut butter, fish and a wide variety of other foods and brands that have had recalls due to illness and death? What about your car? Nearly every car manufacturer has had recalls of some sort, some due to death (heck, look at Toyota right now).

I know you don't mean it in a bad way

And YES I am that anal about my dogs health. Truly and truly.

Yup actually I haven't eaten meat in 16 years. And TBH I'm not at all worried about MY health compared to my dog. My dog lives ten or more years if he's lucky I live 100 if unlucky. I'm quite concerned with his nutrition and health over mine. Period. Mine is paid for and free, his is not.

I do drive a toyota right now. TBH looking at what the other vehicles problems are (cough cough ford cough) it's nothing. And no disrespect to the victims familes-but I don't get how you could NOT get control over the vehicle with a gas pedel stuck. Sorry-there is neutral-it's no biggie. It's easy and no-I just don't get it. You'd have to be texting and out of it to actually plow into another car because your gas pedel stuck. Anyways. Lol OT sorry!

And on point

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I think if the company went through the changes they needed to make, there hasn't been a reported concern since mid 2006, trust me I tried to find one, that they should be applauded for taking responsibility to fix the problem & improve their product? I understand being nervous but there needs to be reasoning behind it, I think

I'm not judging you if you are feeding them, but I wouldn't. Sorry. They never apologized or made it clear what happened.

A big big big oil company here made a mistake-didn't sound bird horns in time, thousands of birds dead. They are in huge trouble. They made an apology, an explanation and a future plan so it didn't happen again. That's a big bad oil company not a dog food company-if they can do it anyone can. Greenies didn't. Not good enough in my opinion. Noit trustable in my opinion. Not being fed here, not recommending it. Period.

greenpenquills · 03-16-2010, 03:26 AM

I gave my dog a Greenie and he really struggled to eat it. I was actually concerned he might choke. So, I got Nutrident instead. Does anyone know if they're okay as far as health/safety go? I bought a bag of their mini treats. He has a much easier time eating those, although I still have to break them in half, but it's much easier than trying to break a Greenie. Greenies are practically indestructible.

Luv2byte · 03-16-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by greenpenquills

I gave my dog a Greenie and he really struggled to eat it. I was actually concerned he might choke. So, I got Nutrident instead. Does anyone know if they're okay as far as health/safety go? I bought a bag of their mini treats. He has a much easier time eating those, although I still have to break them in half, but it's much easier than trying to break a Greenie. Greenies are practically indestructible.

I would do a net search by the name of the product. Be sure you look at good & bad, not just one side. Such as with greenies they were bad but there have been no reported issues in 4 yrs since they reformulated them.

greenpenquills · 03-16-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv2byte

I would do a net search by the name of the product. Be sure you look at good & bad, not just one side. Such as with greenies they were bad but there have been no reported issues in 4 yrs since they reformulated them.

Actually, it appears that there have been more reports as recently as a few months ago:
Greenies Dog Treat Maker Settles Class Action Lawsuit | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats

You can see several people's recent experiences in the comment section. While that may not be the most reliable source, it certainly scares me to know those accounts may be true.

As a previous poster said, I don't really care if they reformulated the product, and that also doesn't appear to be the only issue. Choking is another big concern. I decided against Greenies before knowing anything about them based on my concern that my dog could choke on it (especially given that enormous warning label on the front of the bag). I could see him struggle to eat and swallow it, and that made me very nervous about giving them to him. That's just my experience. People are certainly free to buy them for their dogs, I just play it extra safe. There are plenty of other dental treat brands with clean records that have never killed any dogs.