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Old 03-05-2012, 06:43 PM
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Food with grain = grainy stool?

We are in the process of s-l-o-w-l-y switching Lucy from an adult food (Wellness CORE Original) to a puppy food (Wellness Super5Mix for Puppies).

We've been slowly transitioning over the past one week. We are about half way from having her fully on the puppy food (she is 9 months and when we got her 6 weeks ago she was on adult food but Wellness recommended she be on their puppy food until she is 1 year old).

Over the past week we have noticed that her stool looks "grainy". Sort of like it has undigested small bits of grain in it. We have also added pumpkin to her food for the past 2 or so weeks to help with some soft stool issues.
It went firm pretty quickly when we added the pumpkin but as we increased the proportion of puppy food that she gets and decrease the adult food, her stool is getting looser and grainier.

The only think I can think of is that the adult food was grain free and the puppy food has grains. But does this make for grainy stool? Maybe the puppy food is too rich? Though the macro contents of the puppy and adult foods we use are quite similar.

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I doubt it. Most dogs I've seen eat food with grain and don't have grainy poop... unfortunately Giardia dogs tend to have grainy soft stool so I hope that's not an indication of your next fecal testing...
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I doubt it. Most dogs I've seen eat food with grain and don't have grainy poop... unfortunately Giardia dogs tend to have grainy soft stool so I hope that's not an indication of your next fecal testing...
Gah, I didn't mention the Giardia because I thought it was the food. Maybe its just a coincidence that that graininess started when we started mixing in the new food. Could still be the Giardia
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... I'm sorry to bring up the dreaded "G" word...

My own dogs eat food with grain and are normal, FWIW. Holly's was grainy when she had the Giardia...
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It could just be the grains. I recently changed to grain free for both my dogs and the pooh looks different. On food with grain I always saw undigested bits in the pooh. Dogs have such a short digestive track that there is not time for grains to digest properly. They can eat them yes but digest the no. You might just stick with the wellness core and supplement with puppy vitamins to compensate.
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Thanks.

It seems her stool is all over the place. She seems to be pooping like 3-4 times a day now whereas she used to go just twice when she was on the Wellness CORE. Now on the Wellness puppy she goes a lot more but small bits every time. Some pieces come out hard and then the next piece will come out like soft serve. Its like the hard stools are the ones the pumpkin "got too" and then the soft parts didn't get enough pumpkin, lol. It didn't seem grainy today.

Honestly, will all the changes in texture and appearance and smell and frequency, I don't know what to think. She's all over the map.
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What did your veterinarian recommend when it came to switching the food switch to an adult formula?

Honestly, I think it's fine if you stick with the Wellness Core and IMO I don't think you need to supplement with vitamins (too much of some things can cause more harm then good). I don't see anywhere with that food where wellness recommends at what age to feed to. If concenred about diet, let your veterinarian assess her needs and help you make that decision.

Second, regarding the problem, I think you should take a stool sample in (as fresh as possible) and voice your concerns about Giardia. I agree 100% with Holly. I would probaby recommend having this sample sent-out to a laboratory if your clinic normally does them in-house. Just so nothing is being missed.
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VetTEch... the dog has been treated twice for Giardia-- still awaiting a negative **Fingers crossed**. Long saga...

Amz also called Wellness and they recommended their puppy food until a year old.
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That would make sense then. I would still discuss it with the vet who can see how she is developing. I can understand the company is going to recommend it but at 9 months old I don't see switching back being that benefitial at this stage.

Ah, if it's been positive twice already chances are it's still positive and it's probably not the food being the cause of the problem here. Fingers crossed though!
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What did your veterinarian recommend when it came to switching the food switch to an adult formula?

Honestly, I think it's fine if you stick with the Wellness Core and IMO I don't think you need to supplement with vitamins (too much of some things can cause more harm then good). I don't see anywhere with that food where wellness recommends at what age to feed to. If concenred about diet, let your veterinarian assess her needs and help you make that decision.
Wellness has info about the CORE being for dogs 1 year old and older on their website. Also, I called in and they confirmed that via telephone.

My vet isn't really the best person to ask about nutrition IMO. He advises I use his vet food ie Royal Canin and I'm not interested in that. The dog came to us on adult Eukanuba so I switched her to what my other dog eats (Wellness CORE Original). Then I realized that the CORE is for dogs 1 year+ so I wen tout and got the puppy food.

I likely jumped the gun on that one and now have a huge bag of food to get through. That's okay, I"ll just give her this one bag of puppy food and then put her back on the adults Wellness formula.

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VetTEch... the dog has been treated twice for Giardia-- still awaiting a negative **Fingers crossed**. Long saga...

Amz also called Wellness and they recommended their puppy food until a year old.
I'm impressed you remember all the details Thanks for keeping on top of Lucy's saga.....

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That would make sense then. I would still discuss it with the vet who can see how she is developing. I can understand the company is going to recommend it but at 9 months old I don't see switching back being that benefitial at this stage.

Ah, if it's been positive twice already chances are it's still positive and it's probably not the food being the cause of the problem here. Fingers crossed though!
I'm wondering if I could bring the open bag of food back and just keep her on the CORE?

I just want to do what's best for her! I sorta panicked when I heard that she may have been put on adult food too soon so thought I could play catch up a bit if I put her on puppy food for a few months.

Today I did day one of a multi day stool collection. I will collect for 4 days and then submit the sample.
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