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Old 06-04-2011, 04:35 AM
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Advice needed on firming up my dog's loose stools

I have my 1 year old miniature poodle on a diet of cooked ground turkey and pumpkin right now due to diarrhea followed by loose stools. The problem started as soon as I tried Nutri-Source grain-free chicken kibbles. It seemed so similar to the kibble I had been feeding (she's always been on grain-free) that I thought it would be ok not to transition. I guess that was a big mistake. I probably fed her a little too much at one time that day.

I had stopped the Nutri-source after that one small meal. I treated the diarrhea (went to the vet and made sure it wasn't a parasite she picked up and have her a round of antibiotics) and gave a few meals of ground beef and brown rice. Then she was constipated from that. After transitioning back to her regular food the stools never firmed up. Her regular food had been the following:
AM: Nature's Variety raw, alternating flavors
PM: Super premium dry, alternating between Acana chicken and Orijen red meat

First I tried elminating the raw food; then I tried feeding her a little plain yogurt on her food, a little raw pumpkin, and also tried adding a pinch of benefiber to each meal. Still very soft stools.

So then I though perhaps she had developed an allergy to chicken. But eliminating chicken didn't seem to be an immediate answer.

Now 2 months later I decided to try this turkey/pumpkin homemade bland diet. Her stools have firmed up well on the ground turkey with pureed pumpkin. My mixture consists of about 2 tablespoons of pumpkin to every 1 and 1/2 cups of cooked ground turkey. I haven't been sure how much a day to give her. She weighs 11.5 pounds. I think I've been giving her about a cup a day of the mixture. She loves it. It's been 4 days now. Here's my dilemma:

How long to continue the turkey/pumpkin diet?
Any suggestions about what to gradually mix in to transition back to regular diet? It's very important to me to feed a healthy, species appropriate balanced diet. I'm a little paranoid about what to give her next.

I've never experienced anything like this with any dogs in the past. Opinions, please?
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:45 AM
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Her loose stools can be coming from the fiber you are giving her. If she has no problems going, then maybe cut back on the fiber? Both the Benefiber and pumpkin are giving her a dose of fiber each. You need her to firm up. You can try giving her FortiFloraŽ Canine Nutritional Supplements | Purina Veterinary Diets as a supplement to help firm up her stools. I have used this supplement successfully for both my GSD and Pomeranian. I pick up a few packets (usually 3 to 4 since you only feed one packet a day) from my vet and it appears some websites are selling it now too.

I would start transitioning her back on her food. Gradually. First get her stools to firm up and then start back slowly. My GSD has a sensitive stomach that sometimes leads to him getting diarrhea. When its bad he goes on a bland diet, with some metronidazole or forti flora mixed in, and once his stools are firm, I will start transitioning him back on his kibble.


****Or another thought I used to feed my dog the Orijen Red Meat, but that gave him loose/diarrhea stools. I switched to their regular formula and his stools are back to normal. The red meat formula is very rich and some dogs cannot handle it.
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She could continue to live a healthy life in the turkey and pumpkin. The only thing I would add is a good vitamin and mineral supplement. I feed a home cooked meal of ground turkey , grated sweet potato, grated veggies and quinoa + Canine My dogs have a healthy weight, clean teeth, clear eyes and ears on this diet. Don't let anyone tell you home cooked food is not healthy for your dog. As far as how much I always go by the look of the body. This is a good site to get answers on
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Honestly if your dog has a sensitive stomach I would stop feeding both raw and dry kibble. I would pick one and stick with it. Also the pumpkin is good but 2 tablespoons is too much for such a little dog, I would only give her 1 tablespoon max and no more bebefiber. If you choose to feed her the kibble Blue buffalo has a good limited ingredients food with turkey that you could try, then if she does good on that you have starting point of what her system can handle. BLUE Basics - Choose the best dog food flavor for your dog

If you decide to go raw I would start with something simple like turkey and slowly work in different foods so you don't overload her system.
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Her loose stools can be coming from the fiber you are giving her.
My thoughts too. Try giving her a raw meaty bone daily and see how much that helps. She should be eating raw meaty bones anyways, to clean her teeth and improve her oral health, as much as provide fresh vitamins and minerals.
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I have my 1 year old miniature poodle on a diet of cooked ground turkey and pumpkin right now due to diarrhea followed by loose stools. The problem started as soon as I tried Nutri-Source grain-free chicken kibbles. It seemed so similar to the kibble I had been feeding (she's always been on grain-free) that I thought it would be ok not to transition. I guess that was a big mistake. I probably fed her a little too much at one time that day.

I had stopped the Nutri-source after that one small meal. I treated the diarrhea (went to the vet and made sure it wasn't a parasite she picked up and have her a round of antibiotics) and gave a few meals of ground beef and brown rice. Then she was constipated from that. After transitioning back to her regular food the stools never firmed up. Her regular food had been the following:
AM: Nature's Variety raw, alternating flavors
PM: Super premium dry, alternating between Acana chicken and Orijen red meat

First I tried elminating the raw food; then I tried feeding her a little plain yogurt on her food, a little raw pumpkin, and also tried adding a pinch of benefiber to each meal. Still very soft stools.

So then I though perhaps she had developed an allergy to chicken. But eliminating chicken didn't seem to be an immediate answer.

Now 2 months later I decided to try this turkey/pumpkin homemade bland diet. Her stools have firmed up well on the ground turkey with pureed pumpkin. My mixture consists of about 2 tablespoons of pumpkin to every 1 and 1/2 cups of cooked ground turkey. I haven't been sure how much a day to give her. She weighs 11.5 pounds. I think I've been giving her about a cup a day of the mixture. She loves it. It's been 4 days now. Here's my dilemma:

How long to continue the turkey/pumpkin diet?
Any suggestions about what to gradually mix in to transition back to regular diet? It's very important to me to feed a healthy, species appropriate balanced diet. I'm a little paranoid about what to give her next.

I've never experienced anything like this with any dogs in the past. Opinions, please?
If you continue on the cooked diet make sure and get a good vitamin and mineral supplement to make sure she gets all the she may not be getting in the cooked diet.
Mine were on a diet of cooked ground turkey/quinoa/ mixed veggies because of stomach issues with my hound. I recently started mixing the cooked with the Blue buffalo basic turkey and potato with no problems with loose stools or any other problems. I also do a couple of tablespoons of plain un-sweetened yogurt on every meal. They now eat the Blue buffalo turkey in the morning and I mix the cooked sort of like you would mix canned food on top of the dry for dinner only because they love it. My hound has a sensitive stomach and can't tolerate any other meat so you might want to stick with the turkey since its working and just mix the dry in slowly. If you are feeding 1 cup add about 1/4 cup dry to that a day and slowly work up the amount of dry week by week. As far as how much I always go by the way a dog looks skinny add more to round add less just right leave it alone. Feeding amounts have a lot of factors. Age / energy level / exercise
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I agree if you are having trouble with loose stool then I would back off on the fiber. Sounds like to much fiber to me. Also I would stick with something and give the dog time to adjust when I switched maxes food it took about a week for his stool to firm up. He is 100% raw and I don't feed kibble.
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I am not going to pretend to be an expert (or even a slightly knowledgeable person) on raw diets, but I read on a few websites about the internal organs of a dog, and even though the dog themselves have changed a lot in size and temperament and instincts, their internal organs have not changed, and dogs are true carnivores. This is why some people feed a truly raw diet of strictly meat and bone. The reason plants and fruits and vegetables are in dog food are for fillers because it would be much harder (and more expensive) to make a meat only dog food. According to the sites, in reality, dogs don't need vegetables at all and these sites go as far as to say that dogs shouldn't be given vegetables for fillers (or other reasons) in their meals.

Again, I don't know, this is only what I read on a few sites while I was researching the raw diets. I will try to find them again and post them.
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I don't know Kodi that sounded knowledgeable to me. I was given that same description a year ago when I switched max to raw by my Vet. My vet also told me that adding Tripe helps the nutrition of the food. I would suggest finding a good complete diet for your pet that way you won't have to add anything to the food. There are a lot of good raw foods out there now.
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