07-03-2010, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GreatDaneMom  if youre sooooooooooooooo keen on treating a dog like a dog, then you shouldnt even own one. they should all be just running wild with no owners or anything, until that, youre always treating your dog to some degree, like a human. | First off THIS! .
I agree! Unless your dog is kept unrestricted, outside, hunting for itself, breeding, etc etc...the arguement doesn't work Quote:
Originally Posted by StephanieF Well, no one says you SHOULD. But you have that option. As it was already mentioned, some breeds require a coat in the winter and for reasons that are health important. Besides that, what exactly does it hurt, exactly, to put a shirt on a dog? I am of the opinion that if it doesn't hurt the dog or impede him in some way, it isn't a big bad thing. People put sunscreen on Cresties. That is a "human behavior" Should they stop?
Besides the fact that dogs are not wolves, I really don't know what packs of dogs in the wild have any thing to do with putting clothes on your dog. Wild animals also are not vaccinated, fed, and taken to the vet when injured or ill. I think you have your argument a bit confused, and your anger misplaced. I think it's wrong people dump/abuse/kill dogs. I don't think it's wrong they put a shirt on them sometimes. | This too.  Quote:
Originally Posted by Joachim Hi Stephanie
What I don't get is exactly why you should do it...You say some breeds require a coat in the winter and for reasons that are health important, but then I wonder "what did they do before dog clothes was made?". They are still here, so they survived without it...
Joachim | Because, before dogs were "only pets" no one was breeding working dogs with short single coats to work in the snow. When my dogs are genuinely shivering in the light southern california winters. I put clothes on them, absolutely. Have you ever had a dog that was so cold they refused to go outside to relieve itself?
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07-03-2010, 07:51 PM
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#22 | | Dog Forum Team Member
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| This dog had mange, so he needed clothes, to keep from being sunburned. Is that a legit enough reason? Iam not sure at this point   | |
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07-03-2010, 07:52 PM
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| Guys, guys, guys...It's your pet, I get that, trust me. But it's still a dog. Yeah sure we humans have moved them out of their natural environment and I get that you have to dress some dogs up to help them stay warm etc. and that's ok. That's a very good reason for putting clothes on them. But why take it to the next level??
Like in this picture...Can someone explain exactly why the heck the dogs looks like a tiger and panda-bears?? Some good reason at all? Cause I don't see one reason for doing this to your dog, unless it's a selfish action...Meaning you, the owner, gets something out of it (now, I know that the dogs in this picture not having clothes on, but it's in the same alley, cause it's something a person has done to dress them up to look nice)...And that's not the way it should be, from my point of view...
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07-03-2010, 07:53 PM
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| oh little chili willy wants to come stay with aunt Michaele! | |
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07-03-2010, 07:54 PM
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| First off those dogs are dang cute, but yea I agree thats a bit much....they do that purely for looks (still too adorable tho) LOL | |
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07-03-2010, 07:54 PM
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Cause I don't see one reason for doing this to your dog, unless it's a selfish action...Meaning you, the owner, gets something out of it | this is the base of all dog ownership, for the most part. Not sure what you are getting at.
Same can be said about breeding dogs with bad traits, or making them do jobs for us. Or tying them up outside. All the things we do with them for the most part are for US. Quote:
Originally Posted by pawzaddict oh little chili willy wants to come stay with aunt Michaele! |
wasn't he a hideously cute little thing? I think his ears are the same size and he grew into them.
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07-03-2010, 07:58 PM
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| LOL he has hasnt he! | |
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07-03-2010, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Criosphynx this is the base of all dog ownership, for the most part. Not sure what you are getting at.
Same can be said about breeding dogs with bad traits, or making them do jobs for us. Or tying them up outside. All the things we do with them for the most part are for US.
wasn't he a hideously cute little thing? I think his ears are the same size and he grew into them. | Well, I don't totally agree with you there...If you do something to your dog just to get a nice feeling for yourself, I think it's wrong...Yeah, we can train them to do jobs for us, and all the stuff you're saying but the line has to go somewhere, and that picture is just one example of people crossing the line...That's how I see it... | |
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07-03-2010, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Joachim Well, I don't totally agree with you there...If you do something to your dog just to get a nice feeling for yourself, I think it's wrong...Yeah, we can train them to do jobs for us, and all the stuff you're saying but the line has to go somewhere, and that picture is just one example of people crossing the line...That's how I see it... |
so you don't see companionship as a job for a dog then?
These dogs are companions. Their job is to make their people happy. They are doing that. 
In the case of the picture you posted, those dogs could be construed as art.
In that case, why dress up a infant in a frilly dress? The infant wouldn't care if it was a diaper or a dress...the PARENT cares. Its just a human trait. They think it makes their dogs look nicer, and they take pride in doing whatever they think is a nice thing for their dog. | |
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07-03-2010, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Criosphynx so you don't see companionship as a job for a dog then?
These dogs are companions. Their job is to make their people happy. They are doing that.
In the case of the picture you posted, those dogs could be construed as art.
In that case, why dress up a infant in a frilly dress? The infant wouldn't care if it was a diaper or a dress...the PARENT cares. Its just a human trait. They think it makes their dogs look nicer, and they take pride in doing whatever they think is a nice thing for their dog. | Of course I see companionship in a dog...You know that's not what I mean...And I think you're wrong when you say that their job is to make their people happy...Sorry, but I don't agree with you on that one. | |
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