Never underestimate the dog world--hunting poodles & small service dogs & many workin

pawzaddict

Thats a pure bred poodle, bred specifically for that.... designer breeds are mutts, not bred for specific purposes...those lines are hunting lines, others are not.

Interesting to see that but you are taking the designer breed, a cockapoo, and comparing it to a standard poodle? Cockapoo is not bred by a standard poodle as far as I am concerned...they were bred from miniature poodles. ANY dog can be trained to be a great dog whether hunting, search and rescue, etc etc. BUT specific breeds were bred for specific things, and this is not what the cockapoo was bred for.

Criosphynx

I agree...Iam already very very familiar with Poodle gun dogs....

perhaps articles and photos of designer dogs working would better prove your point.

Stef

Ya, I am very fastenated with the dog world. I didn't know about the cancer. Very cool. Soon, they will be taking OUR jobs, lol

Stef

I will bet I can train my cockapoo to do the things that a helping hands dog does. I was only sayen that poodles do hunt. I was told that they dont. But they do. And I beleive that. I also beleive that cockapoos can be just as usefull a dog as any breed. Full or mix. She doesn't know she is a mix so I dont think it will hinder her. I don't have to find articles. If there is still a doubting tomas, Ill teach Bellarose how to do jobs. She will be the proof that a cockapoo is not at all useless and only for pet, they can do work just like any other dog. It will take some time as all training does, but Ill do it. Im not full bred either, I am german, irash, scottish and sweetish. So I cant quite fault my mixed pooch, she is smart and can learn to do these things without a pedigree.
As far as the hunt and working world goes, I don't care what breed or breeds (and some are mixed, some are small) are, I think that dogs do amazing things and they still do the things that they were designed to do. And those who were not designed to do things, still can. If Bellarose was a lab or german shepard or a coon hound or even a beagle, no one would doubt her or lauph at the thought of her being useful in the work world. But because she is a mix and is not large size and has been labeled with a foo foo label, that is why it is assumed that she can't do anything? Im not trying to fight or anything, not even mad, just dont understand why human beings doubt an animal souly on mix, size and labeling. Dogs dont judge us the same. Even if we are crippeled, they see great and wonderful super hero and we look at them, judging them by the things that they are not even aware exists. If they are looked at by ability and how smart they are and what they like, you would see a whole differant dog. One that can work in our world and can be great at it too.
I will prove that cockapoos also can work in our world and not ANY dog can do search and rescue and hunt, not ANY dog can do thearapy work. They have to have the right temperment and so on. Dogs have been turned down for these before. The Cockapoo has the things that I think makes it very useful in our world as well as all those other mix dogs who dont know they were not bred to do the jobs that they do and do well. I feel that I stumbeled on something that is great. I see a dog that can do good. Now if I were told that she is to agressive or that this mix doesn't have the attaintion span it needs to learn jobs or that her fur could poke someone in the eye, lol, sorry, had to put that one in there. But those are things that I would listen to but to tell me that she is a mix, has been labeled and wasnt in the beginning, bred to do a job on purpose, well, I honastly, thats chinese to me, I don't understand why that even matters and why human beings deprive themselves the descovery of great dogs that can do great work. Sometimes, great things come by mistake....

Criosphynx

I don't think anyone is argueing that a designer can't work.


The point that I am trying to make is that most of them don't, thus negating any need for a new breed to fill jobs that don't exist.

pawzaddict

Mix breeds can definitely be working dogs. Nobody is disputing that fact. I have never seen a small dog be a working dog other than pest work and scent hounds to be honest. It would be interesting to see a small dog work. Yea they do therapy work but thats not physical that is being cute and cuddly.

As for your dog in particular, being a "designer breed", was not bred for working purposes. If she was a pure bred of a breed that is bred for working there would have never been a discussion. Or even if she was dachshund or another working small breed.

Stef

Small breeds make work dogs for the deaf. That is real work. They work to learn their job well and they are working while doing their job. Big dogs do that job too but so do little ones. As with the 2 pics of the 2 hearing aid dogs on the first page. They look quite small to me. I knew about them because Iv seen one once. Not sure what breed, some kind of small mix of about a hundred things. This dog wasnt bred for work either. Nor is she full bred. But thats my point, she doesnt need to be bred for work. She doesnt need a pedigree. I found a small dachshund on my porch this mourning, speaking of, and he wont go away so Im looken for owners to come get him. In the mean while, he is in my home for a short while. I will bet money on it that my "designer" breed could learn the things that some service dogs know way before this dachund would. Hes cute and all, but come on. Hes pure bred... so. Bellarose is smarter and way more capable. Why is it that a descussion may or may not have taken place purely on because she is not full bred.
There are also lots of these dogs in the pound. Why cant they be taken out to do work. You dont have to breed them for work. You find them for work. If you know that certin type of dog or mix works well, why shouldnt the good parts be recognized and help that dog have a better life? Dogs like to work, they enjoy it. Many dogs used for service work, even 2 of our cop dogs are pound dogs. Just because a dog has sadly been labeled with a foo foo label, that does not mean they dont end up in the pound. I think that if it could be gotten over that this dog is a mix, been labeled, and that they dont have to be bred for a job, rather they can be adopted for it just like all the other dogs out there that are close to this breed, there would be found a hard willing worker.
My dog works for me everyday. She is constantly ready to learn, wanting to please me and will do anything I ask if she understands what I am asking.
Sorry, I guess we just disagree. Its okay, I don't have any problems with that but it was fun discussing it.

Stef

Okay, I read that last part wrong. Not a problem that she is mixed. Got it. But I think she could do it. I think Im up for the challenge.

Stef

By the way I love you guys.
I dont mean to be argumentive. I get ideas stuck in my head and it seems to be with super glue.

fawkese1

hey stef, thought you'd be interested in this thread:
such a great idea!!!!

it talks about a program to train rescue dogs (mutts too!) as search and rescue dogs.