Which dog breed you WOULDN'T want to get?

MorningGlory

XD!!!!!!!!! ...well...let's take a look at what you wrote:

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Originally Posted by bubi Pitbulls and Rottweilers, dislike both.

[this is a fine and simple answer]

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Originally Posted by Ironwil Why so? I've known three Rottweilers and one Pitbull, and they were all great dogs. The Rottweilers in particular were friendly and easy to train.

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Originally Posted by bubi Simply because of their aggresivity and temperament. Pitbulls are no doubt one of the most dangerous breeds, and I don't like their look, Rottweilers are very aggresive too, not the type of dogs I would want really

[this could have been responded to as nothing more than "I just don't like their look", but without any actual knowledge of the breeds you felt it necessary to remark on their temperament on a forum where there clearly would be enthusiasts of the breeds and where, if you've bothered to skim any posts you'd find the members have an open mind to all breeds and try to educate that aggression is usually the result of people].

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Originally Posted by Criosphynx why do you think this? They are no more dangerous than any other dog the same size

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Originally Posted by bubi Top 10 most dangerous dogs on google lists Pitbull the first, I'm no dog expert, so sorry lol

[this is ridiculous and proves you have no knowledge other than a cursory web search to back up what you wrote]

So basically you write something with no basis in fact. The only time you come close to having solid reasoning is here:

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Originally Posted by bubi A friend of mine was attacked by a Pitbull on purpose because of hassle with other people, I have had bad opinions on Pitbulls ever since.

Which even then you are admitting by the emphasized portions that the reason your friend was attacked was due to "other people," and those people telling the dog to attack (i.e. owner caused aggression). The owner could have just as easily had a golden retriever attack if that was what they owned.

When you're proven incorrect in your reasoning (that the breed is dangerous) you hold onto your prejudiced notions and become argumentative. Posting things such as:

I doubt anyone cares whether you like pitbulls or rottweilers. No one is forcing your hand to reply. Replying is your option and it keeps the conversation going.

What people are replying to is your reasoning for why you dislike the breeds. The problems is that your reasoning is wholly ignorant. The ignorance level of it forces the hand of the people on this forum to reply. They do not want someone like you with your ignorant notions to further instill the misconceptions about breed(s). They do not want you to undermine the educational efforts put forward by our form (and others) to develop public knowledge that aggression is not specific to any breed (pitbulls and rotts can be as friendly as a lab and a yorkie terrier can be as vicious as a dog-fighting bred pitt) but is usually the result of owner misconduct or a medical issue. A response is further necessary in the case someone is lurking who may believe that the stupidity of your reasoning is accurate and has some sort of fact behind it -- rather than is caused by media driven hype.

With your responses I question whether your goal was simply to elicit an emotionally driven response. If that's the case then that is the essence of trolling. When Iron (welcome by the way =P nice posts) types things like:

Then it just furthers my questioning if trolling is your goal here. Personally I don't like it when this forum is trolled, it's not the environment for it. If you want to troll go back to playing everquest or warcraft or whatever mmo you came from (since those forums are the heaviest I've ever seen trolled).

I haven't browsed your post history, but if it is true that you’ve made 40+ posts in one day, most of which are one liners, most of which are of the nature described then don’t even bother saying you're not trolling here. For the past two and half years *blushes and sinks down embarrassed like as she types this*, I've been living with what was the largest forum troll I’ve ever seen in action from the mmo I played (before he decided to hang up his hat claiming those forums had lost any teeth and had just become filled with a nonsensical idiots spewing leet-speek drivel), so I've seen trolling in all forms and in ways you couldn't dream of. Though, if you are typing things along the lines of being "heavily decorated with "lol"" and "...are kind of like someone asking what kind of professional job you wouldn't take, and saying 'Postal Worker, because they suck'." then what you've typed it doesn't spin the entrapping webs of the people who are good at it, but belies along the lines of the "lol" driven morons of those forums.

Barb

Rather than being a clever troller, I think that bubi is just a kid. Sounds to me like he/she is about 13 given the depth of logic.

Back to the question:
I don't think i would ever own a toy breed. I like more of a rough-and-tumble kind of dog and with the toy dogs I feel like I would break them. Also, they generally seem to require more grooming and have a high-pitched bark that makes me crazy!

alfi

I think we don't need to get this too far. Basically I don't agree with the "I hate rotties and pitbulls" mostly because "hate" is a very strong word.
I would like to think that after this debate bubi got a lot of informations about these breeds and maybe one day would like to learn more about them. Thank you all for the informations you posted! Please let's not make accusations from our passion for all dog breeds (ok sorry for my English here )

I own many different breeds and I don't think that there is a breed that I wouldn't want to own. I prefer "bold" characters and big working and agile dogs tho ...cause I think they "suit" me more as personality and would be easier for me to give them what they need

Criosphynx

Keep in mind many of our posters here ARE kids. So if it does not sound like an adult it likely isn't.

Everyone please keep that in mind when responding to posts.

If this continues to escalate I will close it. Keep it pg13 please thanks

pawzaddict

Well said alfi

I think bubi has received a lot of info on the breed and hopefully will help at least with not having a hatred but more so being unsure of the breeds he discussed.
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Criosphynx

ding ding ding we have a winnah

MorningGlory

I apologize, truthfully if I offended anyone. I like you guys and I wouldn't want to. I get a bit hot-headed sometimes when I feel people are stepping on the toes of others I enjoy the company of and at times don't realize when I myself have crossed a line. Crio please delete my post(s) if you feel it (or for that matter this) are out of line. I don't feel that I typed anything that wasn't pg13, but I don't have kids, other than occasionally seeing my 7 year old sister I'm never around them and I don't know where their sensitivities lie so it's possible my posts would be. I simply felt that there's a certain point where you seek to explain things to people and another where you realize anything you try to explain is fruitless because a person is just playing a game.

But in respect to my accusations they weren't based on my passion for breeds but by the nature of this persons posts. If they made over 40 posts in one day (that is a lot of posting for a single day) most of which are either argumentative about certain breeds or which are "lol" filled then regardless of age they are trolling this forum. No one is forcing bubi (and actually I just caught their handle ) to respond, but it felt to me like they keep coming back with things like "I hate xyz because of abc." Then, when I provided proof to the contrary of their reasoning, other people have provided like proof, they just kept responding with things like "I still hate xyz, you can't make me stop. If I want to hate something then that's my choice, and I hate it." I don't know how a child would respond, but I have seen some adults that have typed things similarly just to get a rise out of people. That's a different form and different environment though and admittedly it's possible that wasn't this person's intentions.

If as barb suggests they are a teenager that has not developed the maturity to consider their ideas, open their mind to alternative concepts, and defend ideas they hold then it's understandable; but, I didn't and don't feel it's acceptable. Then again, in retrospect my instigating them further and specifically honing the errors in their concepts isn’t either. Despite my own malfeasance though, as I see it we have some great teenagers and pre-teens who post to this forum and they don't do this. They make great posts, they ask questions, they consider ideas, they tell their thoughts on breeds or other subjects without interjecting controversial or antagonistic statements into them, and they tell great stories of the neat things they do because they have the time to do them, and they make funny jokes. I've read threads where you all hand-hold them because they feel a lack of confidence posting at first but then they blossom once they see that people are willing to help and befriend them and want to hear their ideas and experiences. That’s good stuff for this forum. But, it didn't seem to me that bubi had been making any effort to enrich this forum in any way but rather had been trying to vigorously state opinion even at the cost of causing argument and dissent.

Again sorry.

*hugs all around*

Criosphynx

LOL (look Iam a troll too!! )

No one is in trouble.

Just saying that if it sounds like a kid, it likely is, so no one gets too worked up thinking they are talking to an adult. If you notice in my posts, I was matter o' fact, but didn't get overly emotional about it, that demographics opinions don't hold much weight with me. *shrug*

anyway carry on!


oh and thanks for the hugs

alfi

I apologize! I just wanted to say that you and other members already posted so many info and if bubi wants to learn more here we are.

bubi

Jesus, sorry dudes, but I cannot be bothered to read essays, I have more important stuff to do, unlike you apparently. Get a life instead of talking about pit bulls everyday all the day. I am first time dog owner, and no I am not 13 year old, but I was expecting this site to be friendly and where I would have banters, why take things this serious? hilarious.

I actually work, run my own company and am 26 years old, married with two children. I got this dog for my kids so they can play, and i decided to ask a few questions here to give answers to my daughters. i made some questions and meanwhile i was waiting, i checked a few topics and posted in them so time would pass quicker.

apologises then, if i dont like pitbulls, dont get offended, if you like them, like them - im sure i wont affect your love to pitbulls, i just said my opinion. now honestly, i cannot be bothered to read all that, im going away from this forum and will not come back anymore seeing as all i've caused is upset, which i didnt intend to

i had a good opinion on this site as i thought you guys were dog experts, but you seem to be very childish and you cry for stupid things, just like children cry if you take the lollipop or their toys from them.

goodbye and good luck