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This is a discussion on All About Your breed(s) within the Dog Breeds forums, part of the Other Dogforum Interests category; Originally Posted by Rileysaur @ avietar I've never heard of White Swiss Shepherds. I love their look/temperament! I'm glad @ Laurelin did shelties too! Riley ...

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Old 05-23-2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rileysaur View Post
@avietar I've never heard of White Swiss Shepherds. I love their look/temperament!

I'm glad @Laurelin did shelties too! Riley has so many typical and a-typical characteristics, that it's difficult for me to speak for the breed as a whole (esp. since he's my first dog).
I think they just vary so much compared to most breeds! You've got some people breeding purely for pets that are cute and fluffy and then the extreme opposite in that people are breeding for the elite elite agility levels. And everything in between. There aren't many breeds with quite that much disparity between what they 'usually are'. Not many breeds are bred to the level of performance some shelties are and the ones that are tend to not have as many dogs bred just for pets.
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Hmm.. they may just creep onto my "next dog" list! I like the fact that they have that confident and protective look with that soft temperament! I'm definitely going to do some more research on them!
Yep, they look the part, and some act the part In any case, I have zero issues walking around in the dead of night with such a big dog next to me. My current dog is very wary of strangers. He'll deter anyone creepy, though no one needs to know he's actually a softie, haha! All bark and no bite. Still, size and looks are intimidating enough... and really, who'll want to take a chance with a large barking dog.
If you have any questions about the breed feel free to pm me.
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Alright I'm doing another one! And upping this thread in the hope more people will join in.

Breed: Wetterhoun

Size: Females: 55 cm/22 inch. Males: 59 cm/23 inch. *this is the ideal height, there is no minimum or maximum. Individuals are known to vary about 3 inches around the ideal height.

Colors: Black, brown, black & white, brown & white. The white may be ticked.

Grooming requirements: The Wetterhoun has an easy maintenance coat. The loose curls do not mat and do not need to be brushed, apart from the biannual shedding period where daily brushing is required. Keep bathing to a minimum.

Energy level: low - medium

Health: Hip- and elbow dysplasia, heart problems, severe combined immunodeficiency, entropion. Infertility is becoming a problem. See *anything else* below for more info.

Temperament: Calm, soft and devoted, loyal, tolerant. Even though they love to please their owner, they are also stubborn. Not in a bad way, they just like to finish what they are doing before following your command.

On the other hand, this also means that when you throw a stick in high grass, they'll search as long as needed until they have found that stick. Perhaps a better term instead of stubbornness would be perseverance. Wetterhouns persevere in everything they put their minds to.

Though they are calm, they are watchful. They are not prone to bark, so when they do, something's going on. The Wetterhoun has a grim expression, and if that is not deterrent enough, a motionless and imposing posture should urge an intruder to get the hell away.

A Wetterhoun is calm and not easy to provoke, not by humans or other dogs. He will not seek a confrontation. But those who push him too far will find out this dog can and will defend himself and his owner. Because above all, a Wetterhoun watches out for his owner. The Wetterhoun is a sober dog, tough and perseverent... so that doesn't bode well for his opponent.

Overall this breed is very tolerant, which makes them excellent family dogs. They are very patient with kids. Wetterhouns love being outside, cold temperatures make no matter. Despite this, you can't keep this dog out in a yard all day and expect him to be happy. Above all, he wants to be with his family. You don't need to be afraid he'll get bored; a Wetterhoun can amuse himself with the simplest of things. A leaf, a bird, they can enjoy themselves for hours. They tend to keep an eye on their owner and do not tend to roam, so off leash reliability is good.

Breed history: The Wetterhoun used to be a hunting dog, used to hunt otters and waterfowl. Their body structure and astrakhan coat made them very suited to marshlands and wetlands. They are built like a tank, sturdy and strong, but simple and sober. Over time they became valued farm dogs and family companions as well as hunting dogs. In the 1940s the breed was in big trouble, but enthusiasts managed to preserve the dogs. In recent years Wetterhoun numbers are dwindling again, but a renewed interest is growing for this special dog breed.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? This breed is very rare. The breed club (click) is very helpful, but you'll have to make quite an effort to acquire a Wetterhoun puppy if you don't live in the Netherlands.

Anything else? As mentioned before, the Wetterhoun is facing some severe problems. That's because the gene pool of this breed is very small, so the breed club has decided, with permission of the Dutch kennel club and FCI, to use the Barbet, Poodle, Portuguese water dog and Labrador in the breeding program. The studbooks will be opened temporarily as well, so people with lookalikes can register their dogs. A great effort is being made to save the breed from its demise.

What is your breed experience? Don't currently own, but the breed hails from my province (Friesland / Frysia) and I'm interested in owning one in the future, to help with preserving the breed.

All photos are from the Dutch breed club: Nederlandse Vereniging voor Stabij- en Wetterhounen
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Breed: German Boxer

shoulder heigth: males 57-63 cm (22,4-24,8 inches), females: 53-59 cm (20,9-23,2 inches)

weight: males 30< kg (~66,1 lbs), female 25< kg (~55,1 lbs)

body: they should look sturdy, energetic, compact and muscular, neither cloddy or fat, nor too thin and sighthound-like.

colours: yellow and brindle (and white, but not not accepted by the FCI)

grooming requirements: low. it's good keep an eye in the wrinkles in the face, because the could be infections, but except of that, they are really don't need much grooming.

Energy: Boxers are working dogs, so they have energy. The're made for working with their humans. this is still part of their standard and this is what makes them happy. They want to do something with their humans, but when they get the exercise and mental stimulation they need, they are actually pretty quiet in the house and in comparison to other working dog breeds they're relatively easy to keep entertained.
The're also more sprinters than long-distance runners.

Temperament: lively and energetic, they have a relatively big portion of WTP for a Molosser breed. The're great family dogs, and good with children, when the children are older. They're very tolerant and relatively mellow towards humans, but they can have a pretty strong guard and protection drive, so you should have an eye that.
when playing with other dogs, they seem pretty rough, but the most Boxers I know get along with other dogs fine. When they're adult, some Boxers of both genders however decide that playing with other dogs is not what they want to do and they'll be happier when their master works with them alone, so they'll avoid other dogs they don't know.

breed history: The Boxer's ancestor Bullenbeisser (Bull baiter) or Saupacker (boar baiter), was a type of hunting dog, used to hold down the prey after the scenthounds tracked it until the hunter comes and kills it.
It was also used for personal protection and animal fighting.The German boxer is a mix of this hunting dog, that lost its job when firearms became more common in hunting, with the english Bullfighting Dog, the English bulldog.
The name Boxer comes from the local name in Munich "Bierboxer" (beer boxer), I don't know why they were called like that though. I assume because they were watchdogs for pubs or because of dogfighting.

What should potential first time owners be aware of:

guard and protection drive sounds cool, but it needs management and an owner that is willing to act responsible.
Boxers are working dogs. they need exercise and mental stimulation to be happy, if not you'll probably have a fat furniture-destroyer in your house.
Some Boxers have some hunting drive, most of them are manageble and can still run off-leash in the right area and with training.
Boxers are full contact dogs, it would be like them to friendly body check you. So if you're a fragile person or you have small children, you should probably pick another, smaller, less energetic breed.
Boxers are prone to HD, ED, heart diseases and cancer, So please choose your breeder carefully and study the pedigrees.
White boxers also get sunburn more easily and sometimes tend to have eye defects.
Because of their short muzzle, they overheat faster and because they don't have an under coat, they get cold it's more a dog for moderate climates.
Boxers are awesome.

What is your breed experience?
I grew up with a boxer, the coolest dog buddy a teenie could have.
We also had close contact to the breeder and some befriended breeders over the years.
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Breed: West Highland White Terrier

Size: Small (7-10kg)

Colors: White

Grooming requirements: At least 3 times a week

Energy level: Moderate - Is happy with short walks, but is also happy with long treks.

Temperament: Friendly, Stubborn

Breed history: Were originally bred to hunt badgers, rabbits and other rodents.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? They have a "what's in it for me?" attitude, they CAN be trained but tend to have "moods" where no matter how well they are trained they don't listen to you lol, are not completely trustworthy off leash.

Anything else? They are prone to skin problems so that is something to look out for.

What is your breed experience? Very little experience, I have a 7 month old Westie and she is the first I have had.
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This is BoBo he is 9 weeks old. We've been told he is a Australian/ German shepherd mix. I was wondering how big the little guy will be. And also if the breed we have been told looks accurate, or if anyone else had an idea. He has the colors of a Australian shepherd, but not the hair. And he seems small for a German shepherd. Not exactly sure how much he weighs now. Any suggestions would be helpful thanks.
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This seems fun!
I'll do my previous dog first

Breed: Cane corso

Size: medium-big (height for males is around 65 cm, weight should be around 50 kg but is often more than 60)

Colors: black, grey, fawn, brindle. Fawn and brindle dogs have a black or grey mask

Grooming requirements: it's a short haired dog with a nice undercoat, so frequent brushes (especially during molting) and nothing more. It's quite easy!
(They slobber. Quite a lot. A lot like, you could find slobber on the ceiling. There's nothing one could do about it, but I thought I might just mention it)

Energy level: medium-low. These dogs can be very athletic, but they are heavy dogs and can be quite lazy

Temperament: they are guard dogs, they almost never bark, can be classified as velcro-dogs with their family and they are usually sociable also with strangers, if they are with their owner.
Very good with children, they don't usually start a fight with other dogs (though they never back down if challanged).

Breed history: His history is... not so good actually, at least not the modern times.
He was in origin the "old roman mastiff"... that then becamen the "italian mastiff", one and only one, a dog that was used at the beginning for boar hunting and military work, as well as a cattle dog (he kept still the cattle when it was necessary), and then to guard the farms in south italy ("masserie"). In the "masseria" this dog worked with a smaller dog (the italian volpino, a small spitz): the small dog barked everytime something happened, even the smallest thing, and if the intruder did not run away the corso woke up and checked if it was a real issue (in which case he usually only had to look, or if he was in front of a really stupid person, barking once or growling did the trick).
Because of this kind of life the corso was a healthy dog, able to live outside in any kind of condition but still really close with his family.
Never aggressive without reason (at that time, aggressive dogs were immediately put down) he also never backs down from a fight. A "story" says that young dogs (8-9 months) were taken to face 2 aggressive adults: if they showed fear and would not fight they were put down (yes, that was what was "normal" at the time).
That is a story (officially it was not used as a fighting dog, but it is true that at that time it was considered by farmers as something "fun" and no one can say for certain it did not happen), but it is unfortunately a likely one.
Still, the end result was a great dog, with a wonderful temperament.
Then the war cause the almost extintion of the breed... untill Piero Scanziani decided to save it. He wanted to call the dog "italian mastiff", but the chosen name was "naples mastiff".
In 20 years the naples mastiff grew in size, became heavier, with more folds on the head.
And then Paolo Breber found in the south of Italy's masserie the very same dog that Scanziani had found in 1940-1950 in Naples.
But while Scanziani's dog had changed, these dogs were the same, smaller, healthier... and Breber decided to re-create this breed, and tried to call it Puglia's dogo.
Many lovers tried to work to recreate this dog, working hard and looking in every small masseria, and in 1988 ENCI (the italian dog federation) started recognising it with the name "cane corso" (cane means dog, that's whi people usually call him "corso").
And this is when the problems started.
Or better yet, they started 5 years before: when they decided that this dog was supposed to be prognathous.
Of the dogs that were examined, half of them had a scissor bite, the other either a "reversed scissor" (that was called a light prognathous) or they were prognathous... but it was decided that the scissor bite was supposed to be only tolerated (perhaps to better separate the corso from the naples mastiff, that has a scissor bite).
So many breeders, to get the "right" bite, started mixing the corso with the boxer... but the boxer was too "light", so hey, let's use a bit of a dogue de bordeaux... and so on. And the corso, that had been a very healthy dog (let's keep in mind that he was a farm dog: ill dogs were killed, as there was no way at the time for farmer to feed and take care of an ill animal) started having epliepsy problems (like boxers), and hip dysplasia and generally bones problems (like the dogue), and eye problem and, especially, temperament problems.
People liked this dog (I don't find it hard to believe), so many "breeders" started selling dogs without caring for his health/temperament, so what happened is this: today there are different tipes of corso. Some are big and heavy, not at all fast like the original corso, some have a muzzle that's way too short and prognathous, and they look more like boxer than corso, some are nice but a bit too heavy, some are as close to the original dog as possible. Even the temperament is different: it's not difficult finding aggressive dogs, or easily scared dogs.
And yet I still love this breed: I had the luck to find (well, my parents found him, at that time I was 9 year old) a responsible breeder, one that had worked to save the breed from the beginning, one that has healthy dogs, dogs that look like the real corso. They are prognathous, but not too much (it is very light) and it creates no problem at all for the dog. His dogs have a great temperament, and his name is well known in the area (many vets and many people, vets and dog trainers, at that time, meeting my Paco, knew where he came from just from the easy going relaxed way he behave. They said "I know he come from there, he's the only one I know that has dogs so stable").
While I have met other corso, this kind of dog is the one I described.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? Slobber!
LOL, apart from this, keep in mind that they are velcro dogs and need to be a part of the family, and be very careful when choosing the breeder.
Remember also that yes, they don't start the fight... But they don't back down, so be very careful when around other dogs: that very nice 20-30 kg dog could risk his life, if he decides to provocate your corso. And your corso will be 50 kg of muscles... you can't hope to hold him if he decides to pull. It is vital to have a good control on the dog.

What is your breed experience? I passed my adolescence with one: he was my friend, my brother and my confident.
I call him "my first love", and the first love is something one can never forget.

I will add pics as soon as I can
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Miniature Pinscher

Toy ("King of" for good reason)

Black and Tan (rust)

Grooming requirements:

Energy level:
Medium (lots when needed). Mine sleeps a fair bit, but is bursting with energy when it's time to go out.

People are surprised he is so calm and laid back, not typical of what most believe of the minpin. Fearless if raised right - they don't have the "little dog syndrome", these dogs are mentally tough and will defend itself fiercely . They are called the king of toys for good reason.

Breed history:
Nobody is 100% sure. Definitely bred in Germany but it is not a miniature Doberman. The Minpin breed is older.

What should potential first time owners be aware of?

These dogs should not be humanized. Give this dog respect, trust and a confident hand, and they will be amazing dogs. Invest time in them, socialize them (young or old) with people and other animals. Let them experience everything they can so they know not to be afraid.

Anything else?
Prey drive can be strong. If you let them hunt - do what they were bred to do, they seem to be alot more settled. You don't need to have a killer on your hands, but a good analog will suffice. Great mousers and ratters.
The breed loves to burrow, leave a blanket or two around the home and be careful where you sit. That lump on the couch might be the dog.

What is your breed experience?
Honestly, I hated Miniature Pinschers as a whole until I met this little bugger. Every minpin I met in the past seemed to be mentally unbalanced, mentally unhinged, some were vicious. But having the chance to work with this dog has changed my mind forever. They are definitely a "it's not the dog, it's the owner" breed. They are amazing little dogs - if you truly want the small dog with the big dog mentality, this is the one for you. They are fearless.
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Breed: Australian Shepherd

Size: 18-23" (although with working lines this can vary a little) Levi is 23.5"

Colors: Most recognizable is Blue Merle, but they also come in Red Merle, Black, Red, and Tri varieties. All colours can have tan present. White present on the body anywhere except the feet, face, legs, and chest/collar is considered a fault.

Grooming requirements: Not as high as they look honestly. Brushed once or twice a week, particularly the ears and pants. I trim the paws to keep the hair under control, and also thin the pants with thinning shears.

Energy level: Very high. Bred to work all day, they have boundless energy. Developing an off-switch is key. Confirmation lines seem to be less energetic and more mellow.

Temperament: They are CLOWNS. Seriously, an Aussie is going to put a smile on that face. With strangers they can be reserved/shy/protective, so good positive socialization is a must. They have what I would call a "soft" temperament, it takes very little in the way of a "correction" for them to shut down. A frustrated sigh from me causes Levi to look worried, so I have to be careful.

Breed history: Probably the most interesting thing is that unlike the Australian Cattle Dog, Aussies aren't from Australia! They were developed/refined in the good ol' US of A. The theory is that their name comes from the shepherds who went from the Basque region of Spain, to Australia, and then brought their sheep to America.

What should potential first time owners be aware of? They have way more energy than you think. I remember thinking I would have zero problems tiring out this dog. He laughed in my face. He can go and go and go. Also, just because they don't require a ton of "grooming" they still shed. A lot. Hair everywhere! Boredom is a big problem with these guys - they need mental stimulation. A bored Aussie is T-R-O-U-B-L-E.

Anything else? They really are great dogs for the right person.

What is your breed experience? (ie I owned one dog, I bred the breed, etc): I own one of these big goobers, and see quite a few in training/doggie daycare.
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