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Old 02-10-2010, 10:12 PM
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as i said before, you may need to restrain yourself from "loving on him" as you want to until he learns that biting means you won't pay attention to him... have you found any other dogs that he can play with? that will help...

and you need to play with him with the toys, toys lying inert on the floor are no where near as interesting to play with as your hands that are reaching out to love on him... start out all interactions with a toy in your hand... the split second he starts to put his mouth on you, shove the toy in his face (gently ) every single time... if he doesn't go for the toy, drop it, say "uh oh" or "ouch" and walk away from him, every single time, without any exception.... plan on this taking at least a month to really sink in, and about 2 weeks before you see any change in his behavior...
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pick the toys up and kinda "wear" them on your hands...works easy with stuffies...play with him like normal, just using the toys as protection...if he misses the toys, "ouch" and stop for a few seconds then start again.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:17 PM
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& repeated given advice.

she just wasn't prepared for true puppyhood & all that comes with it - worms, parasites, behaviors.....
This is what upset me.

After all the preparing I have done, I get hit with this.

and for you, Brittany, I am calm. Just upset.
I do have patience, I just wanted to ask a few questions about how he is asking. I will give it time, as I said before.
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MV-I just read to catch up here.

I don't think their intent was that you brought the pup home willynilly with no idea. That's not what they meant I'm sure of it.

I think they meant-this is your first dog. It's like a new mom-she can read all the books, have the nursery ready, do all the prenatal courses-and child birth and a new baby are still way new-and there's just no way to prepare for it fully. I'm certain that's what they meant-because we've all known you for a long time and all have noticed what good questions you were asking and how prepared you were getting.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:23 PM
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I agree with you she wasn't prepared but no one can ever be fully prepared. You never know what the puppy's personality is going to be until you bring him home.
This ^^^ was my only post about being prepared.

I am not talking about you being a first time dog owner or not willing to prepare for the puppy. I am just saying every dog has a different personality, so there are some things you can't prepare for. It was not a personal attack on you.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:47 PM
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I've repeatedly commended you for reaching out & continually trying.

The frustration, on my part, comes from myself & others repeating ourselves after the same question was posted, in different forms, as if you didn't want to hear advice you asked for. A few of us tried to stress about ciccidia yet you still called the so called breeder for advice even though it was ovious they are a nincompoop (sorry but true based on what we've read). You kept insisting on the 2/27 vet appt yet we tried to stress that you should at least just dropping off a sample to be tested & then go from there, but that just brought more of the exact same questions and advice from the breeder.

I fully agree it is obvious he is MUCH better off with you in a loving home.
I fully agree my posts have shown my frustration.
I never meant to imply you brought him home early just because you were excited, though that was an early thought you had but this was due to the breeder. Reference to age and staying with littermates longer is simple examples of behaviors that are ideally learned by littermates.
I truly feel you were not wanting to listen to anyone's advice but was wanting an instant miracle, diarrhea or biting.
I also feel you kept asking the same question to a point that you were repeating yourself and fishing for an answer you wanted to hear - "Yes, food was the only cause of the diarrhea & don't worry he is perfectly healthy just as he is"
There were a few posts that had "as I stated before" so it wasn't just me that felt the frustration.

I have no doubt you are falling in love with your pup but with all the newness comes nervousness, if advice is given then research the correctness of the answer, such as learn more about coccidia in puppies then find your own comfort zone with the answers given & do what you feel is truly best. Other option, which is ideal, call your vet. If you do not have a good relationship with your vet, find a new one. I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have a good relationship with them & a trust - both that they trust what you tell them is happening and they LISTEN but also you trust what they tell you and you LISTEN.

I don't mean to offend, ever, but honestly, don't ask for advice if you are not going to listen to it and research if it is correct or trust it is correct when many people give same advice...or call the vet.

I received A LOT of guff from different people on different forums because of bringing our aussie home at 8weeks - everyone told me 10 weeks is better but like you all his littermates when home the same day as our Skyler did, he was actually the last one to leave the breeder's. He was from a very reputable breeder who unfortunatly feels that 8 weeks is old enough, we even talked to our vet about the 8 vs 10 weeks as soon as we learned she wanted us to take him at 8 weeks. We did all the planning we could, including trying to convince her to keep him to 9 weeks but again, his littermates went home alread & we were concerned about his socialization at that point. He went directly from the breeder to the vet before coming home & we already had plans to drop off poop for testing after he was home a couple days in case he had coccidia (he did).

I often ask questions, majority of them go to my vet though, most of what I ask are along the lines of "my dogs sneeze constantly when playing, why?" turns out with some net search I found out why, also explained why Skyler goes nuts when we sneeze.

Again, I do think its great you are asking questions, I think its great you are trying so hard to do the right things for Loekin, I think you want the best adult dog you can raise him to be. I also think you were not wanting to listen to possible negatives such as his poop being from a parasite.
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A few of us tried to stress about ciccidia yet you still called the so called breeder for advice even though it was ovious they are a nincompoop (sorry but true based on what we've read). You kept insisting on the 2/27 vet appt yet we tried to stress that you should at least just dropping off a sample to be tested & then go from there
First off, I DID listen to you, I took in what everyone told me about the coccidia and worms. So, what did I do? I took him to the vet. Therefore, I did take into consideration what you said on that subject.
I had the right to ask questions about that issue with more than the people on this forum. I contacted the breeder further to actually see if she did in fact deworm the puppies. I wanted to get others input on the problem, as I called my vet as well. So askign questions with others helped me out as well.

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Reference to age and staying with littermates longer is simple examples of behaviors that are ideally learned by littermates.
I am having to deal with this at this point in time.
There is nothing else to be said about this issue.

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I truly feel you were not wanting to listen to anyone's advice but was wanting an instant miracle, diarrhea or biting.
I also feel you kept asking the same question to a point that you were repeating yourself and fishing for an answer you wanted to hear - "Yes, food was the only cause of the diarrhea & don't worry he is perfectly healthy just as he is"
This is not true at all.
I DID want the advise, as I asked for it. I WAS listening to everyone's advise on the diarrhea and biting.
1: Took Loekin to the vet for the diarrhea
2: Working on the biting right now

So, do not tell me that I did not listen. You are completely out of line, and not to mention very wrong.


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There were a few posts that had "as I stated before" so it wasn't just me that felt the frustration.
This is because others would say the same thing and I would have to explain myself over and over.

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I have no doubt you are falling in love with your pup but with all the newness comes nervousness, if advice is given then research the correctness of the answer, such as learn more about coccidia in puppies then find your own comfort zone with the answers given & do what you feel is truly best.
I do what I feel is right.
I asked questions, got advise and took it.
I called ym vet, set up an appointment and took Loekin in.
Simple as that. I did what I thought was right.

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I don't mean to offend, ever, but honestly, don't ask for advice if you are not going to listen to it and research if it is correct or trust it is correct when many people give same advice...or call the vet.
Problem is, I DID listen! For the last time, I listened!
Just because I ask further questions, doesn't listen to what you people had to say.
I took into consideration the thing about the coccidia and worms, then I called the vet, took a poop sample in like you guys said and then took Loekin in. What more do you want? I listened!

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I received A LOT of guff from different people on different forums because of bringing our aussie home at 8weeks - everyone told me 10 weeks is better but like you all his littermates when home the same day as our Skyler did, he was actually the last one to leave the breeder's. He was from a very reputable breeder who unfortunatly feels that 8 weeks is old enough, we even talked to our vet about the 8 vs 10 weeks as soon as we learned she wanted us to take him at 8 weeks. We did all the planning we could, including trying to convince her to keep him to 9 weeks but again, his littermates went home alread & we were concerned about his socialization at that point.
I did at one point want to bring him home early.
But then I learned from people on here that, that was a bad choice.
So, I listened.
I told the breeder, no, I didn't want him early that Id like to wait until 8 weeks like she had planned to let them go.
But something came up and she wanted them all gone at 6 weeks.
She called to let me know, and since Loekin's brothers and sisters were not going to be there anyways, there was no point in letting him stay at the breeders. So I took him.
Not what I wanted.

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not wanting to listen to possible negatives such as his poop being from a parasite.
Problem solved, isn't it?

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Tsk tsk tsk.

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