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Old 02-27-2010, 04:46 PM
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The plan right now is to make some of "playtime" at the dog park training. We are going to get some treats and call him from one to the other.
this is a GREAT idea. Kev and I used to go to the park and just do restrained recalls on the dogs...great groundwork IMO.
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Old 02-27-2010, 04:48 PM
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Do your dogs always listen to Kev? I would imagine that you work with them more than he does?
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:24 PM
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lol as in, he doesn't work with them? LOL

actually, if its him and them, they listen. Hes gotten really good about rewarding and praising, and what works and doesn't. He very patient with them (now) but if Iam there, they tend to get very confused. For example if I stand in the room when he's trying to crate Emma, she goes to the wrong crate, runs the wrong way etc etc. If I stand back (still present, but in the doorway) she gets it. I think I have taught things both when hes around and when hes not and hes only done it when Iam not there. So when iam there, it confuses them.

If iam on the bed and he says "lets go outside" they will not follow him.

Kev works like 60 hours a week and nights, so I don't really expect him to put to much time into actual training, but he is good (now, again) about not mixing up signals and cues...but he had to be trained! LOL
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:34 PM
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Nic works about that many hours too but he works during the day. Nic's biggest problem is he expects the same thing from Kimber that he gets from Kelsey. Kelsey was so easy to train and she came to us already knowing a lot. Kimber struggles. It takes him a lot longer to catch on. I think his mind takes a while to slow down and actually think about what we are trying to accomplish. You know what I mean? But then once he gets it he's got it. But with Kelsey we got almost instant results. So I think Nic is having trouble remembering they they are two different dogs. Plus Kelsey was 6 when we got her Kimber was 9 months.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:14 AM
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You think he'll work for doggie treats?

I am working with Kimber to sit if wants anything. I will not pet him or give him a treat unless he sits. Which he is doing really good. The process server at work ALWAYS brings treats for them. Kimber will run to him and sit down. The main problem is with strangers. If he jumps on someone I will say Kimber Off and the person will sorta hang on to him and pet and say "awww he's okay!" I am sure you know what I mean. So then I am like now what? LoL
LOL you have to figure out what kind of treats your hubby will work for Dave works for me not bugging him

I know exactly what you mean! I had to figure out what to do at the dogpark because he wants to jump on people (he greets people and dogs there-many dogs ignore people they are so excited) and most people call him to jump up or pet him when he does-and then there are some who are po'd that he jumps. And how do you work on it-when it's other people you don't know?
So I took note on poisoned cues, and dropped the down and off. Called it 'settle' and would call him so he was going to jump on me, then side stepped and said 'settle' with a hand cue-now I can say 'Mikey Settle!' when he's racing up to someone and he just leaps beside them (he has knocked kids down-though the moms were always laughing-that worries me!!!!) so we got it covered-except when people invite him up and cuddle him for jumping-but he seems to differientiate that-and jump on only when asked. I know we did good, because last family day (Feb 15) there were tons of kids -in tobaggans too! -and he didn't jump on any of them-one proud momma right here


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personally, I think him NOT continuing to call/chase him was the right thing to do.
Ditto-you absolutely should not call-or continue to call your dog when he is not going to come (when you are still training) I see so many owners do this at the dog park-when the dog is playing with another dog and totally into it-they just aren't going to listen(when you are training come) and they are 'emmy come-emmy come-emmy come blah blah blah' all you are teaching them-since dogs do not understand english, is that 'emmy come' means 'emmy keep playing'.
Crio is totally right here-Brit had your hubby kept at it-well he'd be just talking to himself He was totally imho right to come get you since he knew Kimber would listen to you. Calling a loose dog is not a training exercise but a potential emergency and he did the right thing. If I might, I dare say he was NOT being lazy.


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My understanding of Pryor's "poisoned cue" is different than yours. To me Kimber was blowing Nic off.....saying come a million times isn't going to change that since Kimber didn't come to Nic and wasn't gonna....so there (dogs tantrum, not me)
To me if Nic had thrown rocks and yelled and screamed to "punish" Kimber....that would be poisoning the cue.

And I still contend that giving up just told the dog that he needn't obey him. Whether because he was giving up on the dog or getting Brittany...The dog is going to preceive it as ....I don't have to obey him eventually he'll leave me alone...and reinforcing him being ignored in the future. Rolling on the ground, running opposite direction in an excited happy tone.......several other things might have been helpful.

Brittany, I don't know what to tell you about my impression on you. I post information that might help the situation. I am not trying to hurt anyone or push my agenda because what I do and what others do is their issue- it's a free country where I live. I really don't think that emoticons is going to change that for you. Just as your post doesn't have any less attitude just because you put a smiley at the end
I have to whole heartedly disagree-the dog got loose-this was not a training exercise but an attempt to regain control. Getting the person the dog does listen to is the proper thing to do here.
If they had been practicing then YES you would be right. But in this situation, no, he should have got Brit and he did and that's the right thing to do. The idea the dog learned to ignore her hub on one occaision is quite silly I think-dogs learn things over time. Yes her hubby needs to spend time showing the dog he is to be listened to as well (A 'come' game is great for this) but he did not teach the dog that he is to be ignored in one fell swoop on one occaision once. Dogs just don't learn or think that way.
It is a free country But you have to be aware of how you come across. This is a moderated forum-and I do agree, if your posts had been directed at me in the same way I'd feel upset. You give some good advice and I don't want you to feel upset either -but this is a polite forum and a friendly one-so please try to think of that when posting-you probabably don't mean to come across any other way but helpful-but when you are posting LAZY-well you have to be fair-how would you read that?

And on point-does Mikey listen to Dave? lol-WAAAAAY more then he listens to me. It's a little hurtful. Dave pays the vet bills and the food (since I pay for the rabbits Mikey is his expense) however I pay for all his toys and treats, and I do the majority of his training, set up everything we both are doing for training and do all the walking-including the dog park every day for at least an hour-and walks on top of that. BUT Dave is more consistent-which counts. I am a softy pushover-even though I know the principles-I'll often break them -often enough-whereas Dave doesn't. And Mikey listens to him better-which is MY fault lol and I get it and accept it
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Thanks Mikey. We are going to start working on the "Here" command together when we go to the dog parks in the morning.

Thanks everyone for all the great advice!
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